I am not vilifying an entire group, I am just stating that the easier it is for people to get into the wilderness the more likely it is for the assholes that would normally not go there, if it took the effort of hiking, to do damage. Unfortunately those few miscreants that do the damage are seen to be on our side which really pisses me off. I have climbed and hiked extensively on Vancouver Island for a great deal of my life and not run into much in the way of refuse or damage out in the wilderness, maybe that is because the places that we go are not used by many humans of either ilk. The fact that you see trail heads littered only shows that because you can drive to the trail head it brings all sorts of people to them. Cabins on Arrowsmith mountain that were great for 50 years started to get torched and vandalized once the logging roads went in and there was vehicle access. Every time it snows any decent amount around here it somehow makes it OK for jerks on sleds and ATVs to ride them through our parks and school grounds. Those are the people that I am speaking about. We need to reign in the turds that make us look bad, quit riding bikes with horrendously loud exhausts and make our sport less aggressive. I know that most of us stop and speak to hikers and mountain bikers as they go by and stop and take off our helmets when horses go by etc, but there are a few that are not courteous on the trails and those are the ones that we are judged by. I have seen many times, big donuts and roosts in Harewood Meadows that have torn up the moss and soils leaving scars that last for many years, just thoughtless acts by people with no respect for other peoples enjoyment of the outdoors. Those unfortunately are the ones that also do damage to our chances of keeping trails open.