LSDS 2015 Routes

[Bora20]

The routes have been emailed out to all entrants. If you did not get one, it is because a) you didn't provide an email address or b) the one provided was not clearly legible.

Please email [email protected] to have your email address updated and the links sent to you.

Thanks,
Dan

 

[black99S]

Noobie GPS question. Garmin Montana 600. How to best load, display and use the GPX file?

I downloaded the C+ GPX file, opened Garmin BaseCamp (yeah I have an iMAc), double clicked the gpx file (I can see the route) then clicked "send to your device". No idea what to send so I selected routes & tracks.
On the Montana "where to" nothing is in "routes" folder but "tracks" folder has 3 sequential C+ tracks (1, 2, 3) and an overall C+track.
Do I just select the overall track and click "GO"?
Or should I have dragged and dropped the GPX file into GPX folder on Montana and ignored all the BaseCamp stuff?
Thanks

 

[Bora20]

c+ is broken into 3 sections and there is an overal track. Your montana will pretty much take whatever you send it so you show be able to view the big track and be good to go. I think you select "view on map" or "go"

 

[cactusreid]

howdy black: you should be able to select the overall c+ in your track manager icon, hit the sub menu option and click show on map. go back to the main map screen scroll to kamloops and double check that it shows up on your screen. if it does,yur done, if not we can help you when you get here.

 

[twisted-hog]

Okay, another noobie question, which ride to do the C or C+ ?

I'll see enough slab on the ride up and back from Vancouver so I was thinking of the C+ ride.

I'll be on a 990.....you say this ride is good for a 650 and skilled 950 riders?

I guess my question is how much skill is required?

I upgraded last year from my KLR to the 990. I'm confident on the bike, but honestly I haven't pushed my boundaries too much off road, mostly FSR's riding.

Been on a few adventure rides with Farp and other dualsport riders this year already.

Got good knobbies on bike and am up for a bit of a challenge, but don't want to get in over my head.

Any advise will be appreciated, I'm sure other riders must be thinking this also?

Steve.

 

[offworlder]

(NOTE: the following is in no way a paid endorsement for the Loose Screw, or any of its affiliates) If you're riding with "friends" - and they dont mind helping you pick up your bike repeatedly, and you consider scratches and broken bits a bonus - C+ is for you !

I'm gonna ride the C+ on Sunday, B on Sat. And based on the Loops crew's statement: "C+ route is ideal for 650cc bikes including KLRs. Very good riders on 950s should be OK. Not passable for 1200cc bikes." - I'll be taking the 690 ;-)

Why not give it a go ? There's likely plenty of spots to bail should things get "sporting".

 

[Randual]

Super looking forward to this years ride! The route looks great, I just have to see what everyone in our group wants to ride and for how long and go for it!
You guys have put in a great effort like previuos years and I can't wait to get up there and ride!
Thanks!
Randual

 

[twisted-hog]

"C+ route is ideal for 650cc bikes including KLRs"

I think this statement confused me slightly, no disrespect to the author.

After owning a KLR and now a 990, yes the 990 is bigger and slightly heavier, but in my opinion it seems more capable an off road bike and on the road there is no comparison as you must be most aware, offworlder

I think i'll take a "sporting" chance, and have some good stories to tell later

 

[farmerger]

"C+ route is ideal for 650cc bikes including KLRs"

I think this statement confused me slightly, no disrespect to the author.

After owning a KLR and now a 990, yes the 990 is bigger and slightly heavier, but in my opinion it it seems more capable an off road bike and on the road there is no comparison as you must be most aware, offworlder

I think i'll take a "sporting" chance, and have some good stories to tell later

Offworlder put it very well, are you OK with your 990 hitting the dirt? Chances of someone/anyone dumping something as big as the 990 on the C+ are high. Two of the test runners did it on 990s. They called it tough, and these are the kind if riders that if you gave them a sub 500cc dirt bike would be racing through the A loop. Only you know your skill level. By the way the same test pilots laid out the C route, the Ironman version of the C has some double track, some single track, there may even still be some water crossings, not to mention its 400km, plenty of challenge in itself, and the perfect route IMHO for a 990.

 

[Bora20]

"C+ route is ideal for 650cc bikes including KLRs"

I think this statement confused me slightly, no disrespect to the author.

After owning a KLR and now a 990, yes the 990 is bigger and slightly heavier, but in my opinion it it seems more capable an off road bike and on the road there is no comparison as you must be most aware, offworlder

I think i'll take a "sporting" chance, and have some good stories to tell later

try this:

http://www.dualsportbc.com/forums/s...l-Ratings-Can-I-ride-my-990ADV-on-the-B-route

 

[twisted-hog]

Thanks for all the feedback, and the link to the Trail Rating System.

Now I'm on the fence.

Guess I'll load up both C & C+ tracks & roll charts and maybe chatting with a beer in hand Friday night might help me make a decision.
Or I'll just toss a coin in the morning

Steve.

 

[David_Moen]

So it looks like I need a primer in using the GPS files for navigating the LSDS routes...

I have a Garmin 60CSx, I have used it for capturing my travels and looking at them on Google earth. I have a 2GB MicroSD with BC Backroads maps loaded on it. It seems that the card may be read only, because when I try to save the files to it, it usually says "Track Truncated" or "Route Truncated" and the amount of free space on the card doesn't change. There is 768MB of free space on the card which seems like acres of space for what I need at the moment. Should I pull this card out and use a blank one for loading the LSDS data? When I transfer the files to my GPS, "Internal Storage", I can't see an option for saving to the SD card specifically.

I have loaded the LSDS files into BaseCamp (PC) and can look at them. Assuming I can get the data onto my GPS, how does on use it other than just looking at it? Can it be loaded as a "Route" and navigated from?

Thanks for your time.

 

[cactusreid]

as far as i know the "truncated" feature if you want to call it that, is the gps deleting points on a downloaded track to the 500 max that your style of gps can hold. you will get a little bit of a notchy track but still easy enough to follow. you can just click the show on map in your track manager section, and then follow the magenta or blue or green road all the way around your chosen A/B/c+/C route right back to the river and a steak dinner. As long as your little arrow is on the pink line your good, if you blow a turn,you will soon notice,spin around find it and keep on truckin'. Loading your tracks, hilite them from the menu on basecamp and hit send to device. the 60/76 series will only hold 20 tracks at a time so you may have to empty some on to your computer before you load the loosescrew stuff.

 

[Dorky]

The 60 series has a maximum track size of 500 points for any track other than the Active Track. 'Track Truncated' means the GPS has DELETED track points 501 to the end. It doesn't filter them.

You have to perform the filtering on the track before you put it into the GPS. In Basecamp select the track you want filter and copy it to a backup track. This will save the original full-sized track. Name the backup track something like LSDS_B_500. Double click the _500 track and at the bottom of the track you will see an option to filter. Ask Basecamp to autofilter your track to less than 500 points. Voila, you now have a full size track and a mini-track. Load the mini-track into your GPS.

I'm not sure how the tracks were sent out but if there is only one large track for each route, you may want to divide this track into a few smaller sections. You can then filter the smaller sections down to 500 points. This will maintain greater resolution for the 500 point versions. To do this, save the full size track to a backup version and use the 'Track Divide' tool to chop the copied full-size track into several small tracks. Rename the small track segments to LSDS_B_1_500, LSDS_B_2_500, LSDS_B_3_500 (Or morning and afternoon, etc) and filter each segment down to 500 points.

Good luck!

 

[Dorky]

As noted by Cactus, once your track in on your GPS, go to the Track Manager and select to Show On Map for the track you want to follow. It will now be visible on the map. I think you can change the track colour on the 60C GPS. If not, you may want to change the track colour in Basecamp before you load the track. I recommend a different color for each track (not Pink or Cyan) as at some locations the morning and afternoon tracks may come uncomfortably close to each other. You don't want to accidentally start to follow the wrong track.

 

[250ccforme]

So it looks like I need a primer in using the GPS files for navigating the LSDS routes...

I have a Garmin 60CSx, ....

Tracks loaded into the 60CSx go to the internal memory only. Max 20 tracks of 500 points can be loaded.
You can set the unit to save a track to the microSd card. This track can be seen on the 60 but cannot be accessed; it needs to be downloaded to a computer reduced to 500 point or less then loaded into the internal memory.
If you take your microSd card out you won't have any maps. Don't load any more maps onto that card as what is on there will be overwritten.
If during a ride you save a track it will be filtered to 500 points max and become one of the 20 you can have. The track being saved to the card (if that option has been setup) will remain intact, a "master" track of the day.
I use Mapsource with my 60Cx, I don't know how well Basecamp "plays" with the older units.

 

[David_Moen]

There is a version of the track in the Zip file with 489 data points, I should be able to load that intact, but it still tells me it's truncating. Time to call it a night and have a look in the AM when the caffeine is flowing. I changed my tires tonight, that always makes me feel stupid, the effects may be lingering.

 

[skidmark43]

I changed my tires tonight, that always makes me feel stupid, the effects may be lingering.

Roger that brother...

 

[David_Moen]

Coffee worked...

 

[twisted-hog]

When I got the email, I transferred the tracks directly from the email attachment into my Gamin, but they didn't seem to load properly on my 60.

I then deleted the track logs on the GPS, then opened basecamp on my PC and saved the email track attachments into Basecamp on the PC then transferred them onto my 60.

Worked this time, but the tracks were truncated.
On my garmin when the track gets truncated it just filters the track down to the 500 points, but the whole track/route is there.

After I transfer onto my 60, I always have a look at the map on the screen and have a good look by zooming in on the tracks that I've just loaded.

I loaded both the C & C+ tracks and noticed I had to change the Medium C track colour from yellow to a darker colour. I just couldn't see the yellow on my screen. I changed the track colour using Basecamp on the PC then re-transferred it back to the Garmin.