Kirk Enduro - May 3 - Sooke

[MapleMan]

Hey Darksiders and Enduro guys,

Check out the VMC website for the details on the Kirk Enduro. It is at Boyd's Pit which is just past Sooke.

These events can be ridden on enduro or trials bikes and they usually set up a good loop of single track.

There is a kid's and sportsman ride in the morning at 11am and the main ride for juniors, intermediates, and experts starts at 1pm.

See you there.

http://www.vmc.bc.ca/

 

[ca109]

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see you there:hb:

 

[Julius]

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Hey,

Excellent ride today! Great to see some DSBC faces on the trails! :hb:

Cheers to the VMC for putting on a superb event! :dude:

YippieKiYa !

PS. I only crashed 3 times! and no broken anything!

 

[sam]

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Julius, did you have the vw and the techno on the trailer? If so I was parked behind you in the black gmc and riding a rev3.

The ride was great, first time I have had the rev3 tapped out in 6th gear. It was a little twitchy. I only crashed once but I think I was much slower than you.

 

[sueandal]

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my thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yQN6KCEHZ8

al style

 

[Julius]

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sam wrote:

Julius, did you have the vw and the techno on the trailer? If so I was parked behind you in the black gmc and riding a rev3.

The ride was great, first time I have had the rev3 tapped out in 6th gear. It was a little twitchy. I only crashed once but I think I was much slower than you.

Yes.
I didn't think any one was slower than me! :?
I find my old Techno doesn't like going fast. Lots o' smoke if I rip it down the road.

Cheers

 

[malachi]

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bah!....cheating....unfair advantage!!!Enduros should be done on Enduro bikes period. The one thing that drives me nuts about VMC enduro events....trials bikes being allowed.....If you're good on a trials bike, you'll be damn good on an enduro bike. Great event as are all the others....aside from that

 

[sueandal]

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those trials bikes may have been permited but they didn't finish so well.

like the video showed they were out of gas. i passed several.

so it could be that but i guess maybe it was just my great skill ( 1hour 55 minutes for one loop) that i beat a few trials bikes !

al (basically last place):f:

 

[Ntl#1x4]

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Just a note for the history books. The Kirk Reliability Trial as it is named on the very old perpetual trophy, was traditionally the hardest one day event in the club. Even after its severity had been lowered in the last ten yrs or so, to allow enduro bikes to compete, it was still a tough event. I am glad that the event was a success, and had such a great turnout, but I am saddened by the lack of respect for its history.

In the heyday of this event, a minimum of 100miles of gruelling single track trails were ridden. Check to check timing was used, and a riding section was ridden at each timed check point. Time and observation was added together to determine the winner. A separate award was also given to the rider with the lowest observed score for the riding sections.

 

[malachi]

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I am in no way disrespecting the event. The event has the word enduro(now anyways)in it which in most cases allows enduro bikes and modded mx to compete. Trials bikes are not allowed...due to their extrememly light weight and low seat height....it's an advantage in really tight trails. I've been in numerous VMC enduro events and most of the riders that have won have been on trials bikes...as opposed to enduro bikes....that's not right

Don't get me wrong, super tight single track on a trials bike is awesome (crazy fun), having an event like this with nothing but trials bikes would be awesome (which the VMC does have).....as would enduro events with the appropriate bikes. It makes a level playing field for everyone.:hb:

 

[old trials guy]

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malachi wrote:

Trials bikes are not allowed...due to their extrememly light weight and low seat height....it's an advantage in really tight trails. I've been in numerous VMC enduro events and most of the riders that have won have been on trials bikes...as opposed to enduro bikes....that's not right

Just as a trials bike has advantages in a really tight event, an "enduro" bike has an awesome advantage on an open, faster course. It is no small challenge to stand up on the pegs for 5 or 6 hours and seat would be really welcome as well as a larger tank when riding long events on a trialer. I rode countless enduros and cross countries on an XR200R which was almost the best of both worlds but useless on a fast course.

Maybe it also has something to do with the rider, like Geoff Aaron smoking fast on trialer and enduro bike.

Trials tires on enduro bikes, OMG, should they be outlawed because they are an advantage? It is the diversity of our sport that I love. Bring on the Dual Sport rider riding a tough event on a street legal bike (way to go Al) and hats off the the trials guys competing in Enduro Cross.

Seeing different bikes competing side by side opens eyes and triggers creativity. That's why bikes evolve and improve instead of becoming inbred and boring!

Ithink that if someone figures out how to make their bike work better than the rest of the pack he (she)deserves to win regardless of what type of bike it is.

My 2 cents....otg (who rides both flavors of Sherco, 2.9T and 4.5i) :tup:

 

[Ntl#1x4]

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Malachi:

I was not directing my comments directly at you, as far as dis-respecting the event. You are correct in saying that if the title of the event says Enduro, it should be aimed at Enduro bikes. That said though, if a good trials rider on trials bike enters, so be it. He will probably win!

I guess my main disappointment is that the VMC has allowed the Kirk Reliability Trial to be run as a basic Hare Scramble. I love the idea of a Hare Scramble, but in the idea of holding traditions, running this event as the Kirk was absurd! It has been my main beef of the VMC, not upholding traditions, and basically losing the history of these events because the necessity of getting entries up at some events now is imperative.

 

[malachi]

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Ntl#1x4 wrote:

I guess my main disappointment is that the VMC has allowed the Kirk Reliability Trial to be run as a basic Hare Scramble. I love the idea of a Hare Scramble, but in the idea of holding traditions, running this event as the Kirk was absurd! It has been my main beef of the VMC, not upholding traditions, and basically losing the history of these events because the necessity of getting entries up at some events now is imperative.

I totally agree:tup:

 

[masso]

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ok, I;m going to wade in here with my two cents worth..
loooong time ago, when I was a young lad in early seventies, I used to ride enduros,
the bikes we rode were ossas, bultacos montesas, saracen,wassell,yamaha dt-1
honda trl 250's ..basically TRIALS BIKES with seats !...all was wonderful in dirt -land, till, you stated to notice the odd, smoking little ring-ding motocross bikes show up at events ..then more and more!..the courses had less obstacles..the trails became freeways in the woods ,so the motocrossers could rage through the woods,at breakneck speeds......so, you can see a smile on my face when I see the odd daring little trials bike in the line-up ...........the pear