2008 KLR...off road?

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klrman wrote:
Had a good hard looks at the Beemers but after watching "Long Way Round" with Ewan and Charlie for nearly 100 times, thought maybe the ol Beemers may be a tad too heavy in the rough stuff! It's nice to know the "Old" KLR faired better than the 08 in the head on...but hopefully no one got seriously injured?
So can you elaborate on why you say its "nice to know" the old faired better than the new? :spl:

Actually say no more I already know the answer to that :spl:
 
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KelKen08 wrote:
klrman wrote:
Had a good hard looks at the Beemers but after watching "Long Way Round" with Ewan and Charlie for nearly 100 times, thought maybe the ol Beemers may be a tad too heavy in the rough stuff! It's nice to know the "Old" KLR faired better than the 08 in the head on...but hopefully no one got seriously injured?
So can you elaborate on why you say its "nice to know" the old faired better than the new? :spl:

Actually say no more I already know the answer to that :spl:
I would guess because he feels threatend by the new one for whatever strange reason he has concocted in his head. :mb:
 
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As an owner of the older generation KLR, and the new 2008 model now, I can say without a doubt the 2008 is better offroad than the old one ever was.

Suspension is vastly superior, runs cooler, more power, better brakes, more comfy seating position....so why is it that Kawi should be embarrased by the new model?
More comfy seating position?
I haven't ridden the '08, but sitting on it the position feels just like the stock form of the older version. Maybe they've changed the seat so it's better, but only a long ride would tell and still I doubt it. I don't understand the statement on seating position.

I hope to answer this satisfactorily for you.

The seat to my butt feels better.

The wind protection at speed is better for me.

The gauges are easier to read.

At night I can ride relaxed as I can see the road, not stressing about not seeing a darn thing ahead of me.

Less vibration to my hands and feet and such than my old bike....far less tiring.

And it for a reasong i cannot pin point, just feels more comfy to me overall.

I hope this answers your questions.
Thanks for the clarification. I can certainly see that a different seat may feel better. It was the different seating "position" part of the statement that confused me.

Not having ridden one, I can't speak to the wind protection. I'm sure my dealer would let me take one out for a spin, if only they could build them as fast as they can sell them. They never seem to have one in the show-room that isn't sold. Still that's good news for us KLR folk.:tup: It means a breath of life and the line will continue. Afterall, one day we'll need replacements.;)

In general:
Even though of us here are debating weather or not the new KLR is actually an "improvement" or merely a "dress-up" kit, I doubt many KLR owners would buy a different dual sport bike. I can't think of a single one that I would get instead. In my mind the KLR is still the best do-anything bike available new.:)
 

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They invest so much in sport bikes and always leave the DP wanting, but someone told me once they always leave the DP bikes antiquated so that they never compete with the other bikes they manufactur so that they can maximize profits. That makes sense to me that that is their game. Maybe they think us DPer's are too cheap and won't fork out the bucks if they pulled out all the stops..haha, but I think they could offer 2 versions always for those who wanted more. Looks like the sports bikes rule though and that is their cash cow.

Two points...

1) There is a company that's puts dualsport first, and has done so for over 20 years, BMW. Fuel injection over 15 years ago, ABS, heated grips, tubeless spoke rims, shaft drive, 50 A alternator, three year warranty... But all this costs money. Price, features, reliability pick any two :D.

2) I witnessed a "head to head" comparison of old KLRversus new KLR when the two bikes collided right in front of me. Old KLR had slightly bent forks, bent front rim, broken indicator and some body work abuse. If you had to you could have ridden the old one slowly somewhere.New KLR exploded. Not fire and smoke but the entire front end exploded. The front fairing was completely destroyed, fairing support destroyed, instrument cluster dead, top triple tree shattered beyond belief for a relatively low speed collision. Both bar mounts were shattered, both fork legs smashed out. It was a mess.

It would be hard for two bikes to hit exactly straight on in a crash....unless they managed to be perfectly straight ahead wheel to wheel, and both riders able to go down at the same time, and same speed, how is the crash a real comparison?

I know what you're saying,but it's hard enoughgetting these KLR guys to hold a steady speed let alone to aim straight at each other while they're doing it! :D

The angle was about 30[suP]0[/suP] from straight on and both bikes stopped within an arm span of each other so the energy seemed fairly equally spent. It happened quickly and I forgot to pack a protractor that day so I had to guess at some of the numbers... but feel free to replicate it in a more scientific manner if you please. Do we have any volunteers? Anyone? Bueller?

P.S. Please read the proceeding with tongue firmly in cheek :)
 

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Actually I just did buy a different dual sport bike...a V-Strom 1000....anybody want a slightly used....slightly scracthed KLR ?.....in all fairness I love my KLR and will never give it up. I don't know why I am ticked off at the 08 KLR. Maybe because after 20 odd years the best they could do was dress it up, but what do I know, from what I hear they are selling like hot cakes...my 2 cents.
 

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yeah,a V STROM1000 is a dual sport motorcycle like a HARLEY ROAD KING is a flat tracker!!! :shock:
 

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I forgot to mention...one needs to be manly and strong enough like myself
to manhandle the V-Stromm1000 on the back roads:dr: By the looks of the way
the guys V-Strom is equipped below, this old man from Switzerland looks like he is can DP it on the back roads!
 

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Gee, I hope he's doing more than just "back-roading" it with those tires. If I'm just riding on gravel or packed dirt roads, I'll use trail wings, or Michellin T66s, or D607s. Big knobbies are overkill for that! If someones definition of "off-road" is a gravel road (like in the picture above) then you don't need any kind of dual-sport. I've ridden my Z1000 on gravel and today I ended up on gravel on my Ducati ST3 (with only 800km on the clock I might add)
 

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Definately overkill for the gravel! I'm sure he's going to putt around some mountain
trails with those and cross some streams if I were a betting man, or maybe he just wants his bike to look the part!
 

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I have put 3200km's on my 2008KLR so far. I broke it in the factory way and ride it hard somtimes. The stock tires are not to my liking. I may go to diferrent tires like MEFO MFE 99 Exlplorers http://www.aviciouscycle.ca/Mefo.html.

Its a Dual Sport. Its not a the Ninja 900 I am used to on the highway at 200km+, and Its not the CR125 on the Trail. It will travel more kinds of terrain than those bikes will, and it does it all reasonably well. Its reliable and easy to fix. Parts are cheap. I own it, It dosen't own me. I am done with crotch rockets and full on dirt bikes. Although Ducati's hypermotard has caught my attention. Maybee next year.
08 KLR's are great bikes. Different than 07's and attracting a different customer.
 
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