2009 exc oil burner?

[Payback]

2009 exc 450 oil burner?
Im looking at buying that bike, low kms, low hrs looks great sweet mods, but im wondering are ALL of theses bikes oil burning motors? Ive definitely read a bunch of negative press on it. How do I know if the engine is burning oil when i go look at the bike to buy? Besides the owner being honest is there anyway I can tell?

I think the bike is great but I'm a little scared off by this issue. so lets say I do buy it and it does drink the oil is there a fix so it wont happen anymore ?

thanks always great info here~

 

[broxy]

How many hours? From what I've read, if it's an oil burner, you won't see smoke. The 2009 bikes aren't really the problem year. That was '08. My friend's '08 burns some oil, but he doesn't consider it a problem. Since the crank case only holds 600cc, it really only takes 100 or so to bring it back up. Don't be scared. The '08 now has 225 hours of very hard time (wide open throttle gravel time and ice racing, plus some general rev limiter bouncing cruelty. we don't really live in single track area), and my '09 has over 100, and both of these, plus my previous 2007 525 and 2007 640 Adv have been dead reliable. I believe the most I've done are countershaft and fork seals. Careful, the info on the internet is dangerous and at times, very misleading.

That said, you buy it and is an extreme burner. . .

Piston w/rings (aftermarket Wossner or other), light hone, various gaskets and seals. There are some very good guides to doing the top end for beginners.

Other more uncommon issues are oil transfer issues. Basically your crankcase empties into the separate gearbox oil (same oil, just separate area).

 

[mike_123]

I had an 09 530 witch had both the oil transfer issues and the oil burning issues
oil transfer was just a seal
oil burning was a complete top end 3 times before they got it right under warranty
it was pretty evident after a 100 km ride on the street left the sight glass empty

after my ktm experience in that year range I would move along however I am considering one of the new 500s next month

 

[cactusreid]

mike_123 i have to wonder why a dealer would need 3 shots at a top end job before they could/would solve a top end oil burnig problem? possibly replaceing parts with parts that were the problem in the first place? warranty works in strange ways sometimes! that being said, i know of at least 1 new 500, that had an oil use issue. KTM still makes a damn fine bike in my opinion.

 

[broxy]

That would be my guess. A good aftermarket piston and rings would have solved the problem. A dealer is doing little more than applying part numbers to the issue, or maybe the service manager might pop his head in for a gander.

mike_123 i have to wonder why a dealer would need 3 shots at a top end job before they could/would solve a top end oil burnig problem? possibly replaceing parts with parts that were the problem in the first place? warranty works in strange ways sometimes! that being said, i know of at least 1 new 500, that had an oil use issue. KTM still makes a damn fine bike in my opinion.

 

[mike_123]

mike_123 i have to wonder why a dealer would need 3 shots at a top end job before they could/would solve a top end oil burnig problem? possibly replaceing parts with parts that were the problem in the first place? warranty works in strange ways sometimes! that being said, i know of at least 1 new 500, that had an oil use issue. KTM still makes a damn fine bike in my opinion.

Being a new product with new problems at the time they were just throwing new or updated parts at it hopping to solve the issues
holeshot was fantastic to deal with through these problems even when bigjoke was the selling dealer and refused to admit there was problems

i agree ktm makes a great bike however for the amount of money to buy one new it would be nice if it was trail ready right off the showroom floor without having to spend another few thousand in aftermarket parts