2008 TE 450

[leeloo]

I'd like to chat with any 08 TE450 owners about how their bikes are running. I've been totally disappointed in the fueling since day one, and I'd like to find a cure, jerky and rough on acceleration, and stalls all the time on slow take offs. I've already added the power up kite to try and remedy but....?

 

[Guest]

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Have you posted this over at cafehusky.com? You might get more responses there

 

[skidmark43]

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Len,

We have a new site sponsor that you should like; Mike Koenig of Husqvarna NorthWest. ("huskyNW" on Thumpertalk & cafehusky). He's just across the border (and affiliated with Tasky's).

Great guy & full of knowledge on our bikes. You should get in touch...

Mark

 

[Grumpy KTM]

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It almost sounds like the problems KTM bikes have when they come out of the box. Have you put in a JD Jet kit in the bike. This is recommended for the KTM bikes. Stalling, jerky throttle response. Just a thought.
:?
Mike

 

[North]

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The 08 450 is FI, so it sounds like a mapping issue. But I would call the above mentioned guy at Husqvarna NorthWest and ask him.

 

[old trials guy]

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leeloo wrote:

I'd like to chat with any 08 TE450 owners about how their bikes are running. I've been totally disappointed in the fueling since day one, and I'd like to find a cure, jerky and rough on acceleration, and stalls all the time on slow take offs. I've already added the power up kite to try and remedy but....?

I would head back to your dealer and get them to run the diagnostic test (if they have the equipment to do so as it calls for computer, software and hook up cable if it is fuel injected)

Things to check would be all the electrical connections to the sensors. There will be a throttle position sensor, a air temperature sensor (typically mounted in the air box) and of course inputs from and to the ECU (or fuel injection computer). Flaky electrical connections can play havoc with injection systems.

Avoid getting water into the computer unit while washing as that can be a real problem.

Another potential issue is tight intake valves. This can cause very poor off idle performance.

I have the Vehicle Diagnostic Scan software and and hookup cable for the Moto Marelli system on my Sherco and would be happy to try and help you out but not sure what cable hook up you need.

otg

 

[leeloo]

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Thanks Mark!

 

[leeloo]

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Sorry, Thanks all, it's most definitely a fueling problem with the efi, I did actually send off my cpu to Rocher back east, as the local dealer does not have the diagnostic computer, unfortunately it's still not right, I'll look up the contact you mentioned. Thanks again.

 

[ScottyR]

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Hello. This is Scott Rocher from Ontario. There is a TSB on this andan ECU reflash for certain VINs. Your bike probably is inthe affected VIN range. If you send me the last 6 of the VIN I can tell you if your bike is affected. The software just became available (finally) to reflash. I have it enroute right now and should see it middle of next week. It looks as though Halls in the US andmyself are the only people to buy the software according to the Part Mgr at Husq NA.

This is not a warranty covered charge and I had to lay out $600for the software.There will be a $50 charge for the reflash. I hope you understand.

Unfortunately, you will have to send the ECUback to me, but I will be glad to help you out.



Scott

[email protected]

 

[North]

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Hi Scott,

What does "TBS" stand for? Was this something wrong from the factory? I have an 08 TE610.


Thanks

Rick

 

[ScottyR]

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TSB = Technical Service Bulletin.

Not warranty. Just an update if the customer complains.

There is an update for TE610s, but I read that the models affected were sold in EU only. No NA spec bikes are affected.

 

[North]

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ScottyR wrote:

TSB = Technical Service Bulletin.

Not warranty. Just an update if the customer complains.

There is an update for TE610s, but I read that the models affected were sold in EU only. No NA spec bikes are affected.

Thanks

Rick

 

[Buckethead]

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ScottyR wrote:

TSB = Technical Service Bulletin.

Not warranty. Just an update if the customer complains.

Ihear we're not allowed to bash Huskys here (and I love them anyway drooool...), but if Husky recognises that that there is a factory problem with enough bikes to warrant a TSB why wouldn't they cover the reflash under warranty? If they know there is a problem with certain VINs, why not contact the owners, rather than waiting for them to "complain"? Is itsomehow the customer's fault that their particular bike is defective from the factory so now they need to pay?

The old saying about being "Penny Wise and Pound Foolish"keeps comingto mind. When I was bike shopping last year my biggest hesitation with Husqvarna was the service horror stories I had heard. I wonder how many people would buy brand new Huskys if the newswas about how Husky had stepped up and helped owners when problems developed rather than leaving them hanging.

ScottyR - I know this isn't your fault, and thanks for getting the software. I offer the above as feedback for Husqvarna from someone who didn't buy a Husky largely because of this kind of poor factory service and support.

 

[North]

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Thats what I thought too Buckethead. :shock:

So Husky would rather let their Customers be pissed-off riding around on Bikes that are not performing right, not even letting them know about it and than charge them to fix it when they complain about it.

I guy could go nuts trying to fix something like that.

I wonder if they got away with that in the EU?


Anybody want to buy an 08 610??? Man I feel like a Sucker.

 

[ScottyR]

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FWIW, I sold over 100 08 TE/SMs and less than 10 of my bikes are in the affected VIN range. At $50 per bike/10 bikes, I am still not close to recovering my $600 US investment and the time it takes my tech to run the program, repackage the ECU and send it back to the owner (probably 45 mins per unit). I think that the $50 is more than fair. Only Halls in the US and myself have bought the software as a lot of dealers do not have any affected bikes.

You guys out west are in a tough spot with Husky due to a lack of dealers with access to parts and these service bulletins. It is not all Husqs fault for some of the problems that have happened out west. Husq has been more than fair with me regarding warranty claims and goodwill work. I really cant complain about the service the factory has given me. The US Dist, on the other hand....

Fortunately, this will be changing on Jan 1/2010. Canada will have its own Dist based in Canada. Bikes will be inventoried in Toronto and parts will be shipped to dealers directly from the factory just like Triumph and Ducati does today. The plan is to have 3 dealers in BC and 2-3 in Alberta so things should get better for you guys.

 

[North]

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Hi Scott,

I would gladly pay 50 bucks to have my Bike running right, if it was not. And good for you for stepping up and getting the software. Not to mention that at the cost of labour, you are losing money doing the upgrade. (But IMHO Husky should be stepping up.)

We would certainly like to have you out here.

I do like my 610 and once I get the suspension storted out, it will be, in my mind, the perfect dual sport Bike.


Rick

 

[franhoser]

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I agree with Rick. We need guy's like you out here in the Vancouver area.

 

[Buckethead]

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ScottyR wrote:

FWIW, I sold over 100 08 TE/SMs and less than 10 of my bikes are in the affected VIN range.  At $50 per bike/10 bikes, I am still not close to recovering my $600 US investment and the time it takes my tech to run the program, repackage the ECU and send it back to the owner (probably 45 mins per unit).  I think that the $50 is more than fair.  Only Halls in the US and myself have bought the software as a lot of dealers do not have any affected bikes.

Hey Scott-
To be clear, my criticism is directed at Husqvarna, not at you. If by your numbers 10% of these bikes are defective from the factory, I think it is just as lousy for them to not support you in fixing this problem as it is that they aren't supporting the owners. This obviously puts you in a bad spot too. Thanks for your efforts to help our members get this sorted out.
Matthew

 

[franhoser]

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North wrote:

Anybody want to buy an 08 610??? Man I feel like a Sucker.

Hey Rick,

Yeah I'll buy your husky. You can keep the forks, rear suspension and FI system if you want. I could use some parts. :talk:

 

[ScottyR]

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I think 10% is on the high side. I have talked to a lot of dealers who dont have any affected units. It is just a certain sequence of VINs that need the reflash. Truth be known, only 3 of my affected bikes are TEs. The rest are SMRs.