Chilcotin Double Double ADV route

Early August trip! With a previous dry or so month we figured it was perfect to go up Mud lake and beyond!
The idea of the trip is to summit Poison Mtn and China Head in a row hence the name!

Our party was composed of x2 DR650, a 690 and 790.

Friday late afternoon was to leave Vancouver and head up straight the Bridge River valley area.
Some of our group went in earlier under the sun but I and another rider met a 4PM in Lyons Bay only to take a huge shower all the way to Whistler!
Great way to start a trip!

Going over the Hurley was uneventful, except the usual "light duty" cars with flats on the road...
But it was getting drier with almost no trace of previous rain here, promising a comfortable setup by Gun Lake, our meeting point at the South Rec Site.

Day1
Packing and heading to Mud lake. The road from Gun Lake down to the pavement by Carpenter lake always over this beautiful view yo may have seen before.

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The road up and past Tyax lodge is still fun to ride, smooth and easy, watch out for horse party and mountain bikers on their way the mountains.
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Saturday morning could be described as the challenging bit, slow progress past Mud lake due to the steep and eroded inclines we have to go through.
They are manageable when using your clutch and looking for ways to get traction but definitely a challenge depending on how heavy your bike is loaded.
Water crossings before that were easy with low levels on the lake and the multiple creeks!

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Going up 2300m is really the cherry on top of this trip, 360 view and temperature dropping considerably, it's not too often that you get to go on top of the mountain on your bike, is it!
The junction down toward French Bar creek rec site, our camp spot for the night was fairly easy with more views and fun riding. We made it quite early around 4:30PM and decided to enjoy the rest of the day chilling after the effort in the morning.
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Note: Thanks to all the previous party on bikes and 4x4 who went from both side around Poison and China to clear the deadfalls.
We saw a lot of fresh cuts and trees moved out the way. If they weren't it would have taken more than a day to complete and do it, especially without a chainsaw!

Also, great example of "pay it forward" , previous user left a huge oil of wood, cut and split, quite a luxury to roll in that camp and start your fire!

Day2: Winding our way back to Lillooet on West Pavillon Drive
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Reached Lillooet around 12:30PM, fuelled up and rode back to town on the Sea to Sky before the worst of the traffic.
 
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Jmilne9

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Really good posting, love to make it further past Mud Lakes myself.

Can you share some more details of the route you guys took? If able, no problem to meet up and chat about it over a map
 

Sicamose

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Hey Alex, glad to see you got your trip in.. well done and thanks for the pic etc.
As I mentioned in a different thread you responded to.. we are planning our route up Yalakom to Poison then turn right at the intersection onto Gaspard:
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Can you share some details of the section you circled in the other thread? and any other tough sections that you think might be tough for loaded GS's.
We head out on Sept 7th
 

steam

Veni vidi velcro
We were just through this route last weekend. We travelled from the Williams lake side via the 2800rd, through to poison, china head, big bar ferry and back to WL. Trails and roads are in great shape. Just be advised that the Gaspard/red mountain route has two gates on it. One on either side of churn creek. Both happened to be open when we came through from the 2800rd.
 

Sicamose

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Thx Steam,
We plan to go east on Poison Mountain Rd then north onto Gaspard Red Mountain... that way we hope to miss the rutted steep grade out of Swartz/Mud Lakes. We will be on big bikes (GS & GSA). What bikes were you on?
Also I am finding more trip review's on China Head... is it doable on big bikes?
 

steam

Veni vidi velcro
i'm on a ktm 525 and my riding partner rides a ktm 1290. The only tricky parts of this route are the actual climbs up china head and poison mtn. Both are optional. The road from poison west to the top of the mud lakes hill is rocky double track but not that difficult. Once you turn north onto the trail that takes you to the red mountain road there are a couple mud holes. They have solid bottoms and didn't pose any problems. Were you planning of exiting the red mountain road to the 2800rd?
 

Sicamose

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i'm on a ktm 525 and my riding partner rides a ktm 1290. The only tricky parts of this route are the actual climbs up china head and poison mtn. Both are optional. The road from poison west to the top of the mud lakes hill is rocky double track but not that difficult. Once you turn north onto the trail that takes you to the red mountain road there are a couple mud holes. They have solid bottoms and didn't pose any problems. Were you planning of exiting the red mountain road to the 2800rd?
Yes, That was the plan. Then we will head north on 2800rd and turn east on Gang Ranch Rd to get fuel in Dog Creek.
I've been using my BRMB GPS to pick the route. Just checked my BRMB Book which indicates a gate at intersection of 2800rd/red mountain road ... which doesn't show on BRMB GPS!!!
I do not see a second gate on my maps... do you have estimated coordinates?
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Hey Alex, glad to see you got your trip in.. well done and thanks for the pic etc.
As I mentioned in a different thread you responded to.. we are planning our route up Yalakom to Poison then turn right at the intersection onto Gaspard:
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Can you share some details of the section you circled in the other thread? and any other tough sections that you think might be tough for loaded GS's.
We head out on Sept 7th

Hey Sicamose, yes I think it is a smart choice to come from Yalakom, it is much easier to go up Poison this way.
The circle part is actually not the very steep parts, it right before (the switch backs) so you should be fine with the GS, the entire track on the ridge is a bit rough but not particularly gnarly. So you should join the intersection and go right to Gaspard without much issues. Then I don'y know how it is after. Happy trails!
 

steam

Veni vidi velcro
Your location of the gate is fairly accurate. There is one more gate on the red mountain road (51.265782 -122.687496). like i stated earlier, both gates were open when we came through.
 

Sicamose

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Your location of the gate is fairly accurate. There is one more gate on the red mountain road (51.265782 -122.687496). like i stated earlier, both gates were open when we came through.
Thx Steam... Appreciate the quick response
 
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Sicamose

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Hey Sicamose, yes I think it is a smart choice to come from Yalakom, it is much easier to go up Poison this way.
The circle part is actually not the very steep parts, it right before (the switch backs) so you should be fine with the GS, the entire track on the ridge is a bit rough but not particularly gnarly. So you should join the intersection and go right to Gaspard without much issues. Then I don'y know how it is after. Happy trails!
Thx Alex... Appreciate the quick response. Now working on route back through West Pavilion from Dog Creek.
 
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