Garnet Creek FSR To East Harrison Saturday Aug. 21

Phoenix

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Sorry guys can't do long ride, need to be back in the Ridge by 3-3:30 p.m. would mean being back to Harrisson/Agassiz by 2 p.m. for me. Still wanna check out the Garnet Creek area in the future though.

Cheers, Alex.
 

Farp

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Sorry guys can't do long ride, need to be back in the Ridge by 3-3:30 p.m. would mean being back to Harrisson/Agassiz by 2 p.m. for me.
If we leave Aggasiz at 8:30 we should be in Boston Bar by 9:30. Boston Bar to Harrison Hot Springs is about 4 hours, should work out just about right.

John
 

SouthPoint

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I was planning on arriving at your house at 8:00am. That leaves 1/2 an hour to offload the bike, and get to the meeting place in Aggasiz by 8:30. That's about as early as I'd wanna do it; something about getting up when it's still dark just doesn't work for me.

Time sounds good John. Don't blame you for not wanting to head out in the dark.

Sorry guys can't do long ride, need to be back in the Ridge by 3-3:30 p.m. would mean being back to Harrisson/Agassiz by 2 p.m. for me. Still wanna check out the Garnet Creek area in the future though.

Is Sunday a possibility?
 

Farp

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Don't blame you for not wanting to head out in the dark
I don't mind heading out in the dark, I just don't like getting outa bed when it's still dark out, once I'm up I'm fine.

Is Sunday a possibility?
Sunday works for me. But it shouldn't be too difficult to get back in time for Alex if we leave Aggasiz at 8:30. That's allowing 4 hours for the leg from Boston Bar to Harrison Hot Springs. I'm pretty sure that if I pushed it I could do that leg in 2 hrs, 2 1/2 hrs for sure, so 4 hrs shouldn't be a problem for anybody. It's only 120km and it's not hard to average 40km/hr so that works out to 3 hrs. There should be lots of time to get back to Harrison by 2PM if we leave Aggasiz at 8:30AM and stay on the pavement to Boston Bar.

John
 
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Phoenix

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Timelines look good, but I already have plans for Sunday. Again I apologise for the late response so don't let my schedule throw a wrench in things.

Cheers, Alex.
 

Farp

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Well, it looks like Alex is out so that leaves Hamon, SouthPoint, and myself (Farp) for the ride. Here's a thought. What if we go up east Harrison to Boston Bar via Kookipi, and return via hwy 1 to the the American Creek route and follow it to Ruby Creek and the Lougheed. When we get there we can decide if there's enough time to take the Garnet Creek route to Bear Creek on the east Harrison mainline and then back to HHS, or alternatively we can just ride the Lougheed back. That way we'll be riding down that killer hill on the American Creek route. Whatcha all think?

John
 
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SouthPoint

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Sounds good to me! :clap:

That would be the most efficient way to cover off everything we want to do. :dr:

Can't believe no one else wants to do this ride. It should be a good one!!
 

SouthPoint

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Timelines look good, but I already have plans for Sunday. Again I apologise for the late response so don't let my schedule throw a wrench in things.

Sorry to hear you can't make it Alex. Good news is, it gives us an excuse to go again sometime.
 

Farp

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Sounds good to me! :clap:

That would be the most efficient way to cover off everything we want to do. :dr:
The route has been changed so let's change the meet-up place to the Old Settler pub in Harrison Hot Springs - 8:30AM Saturday morning.

John
 
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old trials guy

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Now if you could only get rid of that boring ride from BB to Ruby Creek....hmmm....Saturday you say....biggest distance between gas is ....hmmmm.

You got me thinkin...

otg
 

Farp

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Now if you could only get rid of that boring ride from BB to Ruby Creek....hmmm....Saturday you say....biggest distance between gas is ....hmmmm.

You got me thinkin...


Hi Ron, The biggest distance between gas is about 125km and the boring part isn't all the way from BB to Ruby Creek. We're only on the pavement from BB to where American creek meets hwy1 north of Hope, then we're back in the dirt again all the way to Ruby Creek. And the canyon isn't all that bad, the most boring part is the Lougheed from Hope to Agassiz and we're not doing that so it's gonna be a great ride - hope you decide to come.

John
 

tomcycle

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Now if you could only get rid of that boring ride from BB to Ruby Creek....hmmm....Saturday you say....biggest distance between gas is ....hmmmm.

You got me thinkin...

otg

From boston bar take anderson fsr to murry lakes fsr that will bring you to the coke then follow the kvr south to portia keeping on the gravel, head west to caroline mines and you will eventually find yourself at the alexandrea bridge, now its just a short ride to American creek

Tom
 

mearp

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Hi,

Can you guys let me know how beginner friendly this ride is ? I'm mostly worried about very technical sections or this steep and (apparently) treacherous hill. I'm new to dualsport, and my bike -- which at the moment still feels quite high to me.

Thanks,
Madalene
 

SouthPoint

Member
Can you guys let me know how beginner friendly this ride is ? I'm mostly worried about very technical sections or this steep and (apparently) treacherous hill. I'm new to dualsport, and my bike -- which at the moment still feels quite high to me.

The Harrison East FSR is smooth gravel and very easy.

The Kookipi section has some moderately steep sections with loose, softball sized rocks. There is also one steep downhill with a rockslide and boulders to negotiate through.

The American Creek section (the big hill we have been talking about) is very steep and fairly loose. You will probably be sliding a bit going down there.

The Garnet Creek section is sort of like Kookipi, there are moderately steep sections with loose rocks.

As well, given the distance we have to travel in the time we have, you should be able to do about 60km/h on the smooth FSRs. Some of the riders can and do travel much faster, but that is sort of a minimum speed required to complete the ride.

All in all, it is not a particularily difficult ride, but there are some sections that may not be too beginner friendly. What's your opinion John? Travis?

Ted
 

mearp

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The Kookipi section has some moderately steep sections with loose, softball sized rocks. There is also one steep downhill with a rockslide and boulders to negotiate through.

Ted

I don't mind uphill, but the idea of sliding downhill while negotiating boulder... I think I'll get some more practice first, and wait until I can get some lowering links on my bike. Thanks for the details!
 

Farp

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All in all, it is not a particularily difficult ride, but there are some sections that may not be too beginner friendly. What's your opinion John?
I think that's a fairly accurate description. The big concern is that this is going to be a fairly long ride and it might be too much for a beginner. There's nothing worse than being 50 miles from nowhere and finding that you're becomming exhausted and you're only half way to the end. Also, as you say, there are some technical sections that a beginner might find too challenging and the bad news is that they're located too far out to turn back. I sure don't want to discourage anyone but at the same time I really don't want to invite someone to bite off more than they can chew. This is a very unforgiving sport and it can seriously punish someone who makes a mistake. In the interests of playing it on the safe side I'd like to encourage Madelene to meet us at Bruce's (Bruce's Country Market - corner of 240th and Lougheed) for breakfast and then we can go up west Stave where there is a variety of terrain, and turning back if the going gets too rough is not a problem. Unfortunately that's not gonna happen this weekend, and next weekend is the Gnarly Parts ride so it will likely be the weekend after that which is the labour day weekend.

I'd really encourage Madelene to go on the Gnarly Parts ride (it's free and you can register on this site) and sign up for the "C" loop. This will be a good ride for a beginner and she'll have lots of company. In the meantime, without knowing anything about Madelenes ability or fitness level I'd be really uncomfortable with taking a beginner on tomorrows ride.

John
 

mearp

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I've signed up for the Gnarly Parts ride, and ordered lower links at the same time....
So, we'll see how it goes! Next time.
 

SouthPoint

Member
I've signed up for the Gnarly Parts ride, and ordered lower links at the same time....
So, we'll see how it goes! Next time.

Glad to hear it! See you there..

Just so there is no confusion, it looks like the final plan is as follows:

Meet at the Settler Pub parking lot in Harrison Hot Springs tomorrow at 8:30am

Ride the Harrison East FSR through Kookipi to Bostion Bar, then
Hwy 1 from Boston Bar to the American Creek FSR, then
American Creek FSR to Garnet Creek FSR, then
Garnet Creek FSR to Harrison East FSR, then
Harrison East FSR back to Harrison Hot Springs

So far, the only ones confirmed are Farp, Hamon and myself. We will be riding to the Settler together, so if no one else posts that they are going to join us, then we won't stop at the Settler.

Hopefully a few others will decide to join us on what should be a great dual sport ride.
 

Farp

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From boston bar take anderson fsr to murry lakes fsr that will bring you to the coke then follow the kvr south to portia keeping on the gravel, head west to caroline mines and you will eventually find yourself at the alexandrea bridge, now its just a short ride to American creek

Thanks, Tom, sounds like a great route.

John
 

Bill_P

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This sounds like an excellent ride. How long of a stretch is it from Boston Bar to American Creek FSR? My bike is prettyt low geared!
 
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