KLR gets a makeover for 2008 model year

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I'm with Fixer Dave... I think it is sad simply because whatever your opinion of the KLR650, it is a classic and we are seeing the end of an era. They changed something needlessly, that has lasted so long because it worked then, and it still works now. The KLR is a retro bike that isn't retro. I can't comment on the suspension which seems to be bearing the brunt of complaints... using new technology I am not sure a loss of an inch or two in suspension travel will affect the off road performance of the bike if it is indeed much more advanced than the old suspension. Though it still begs the question why lower it at all? I am disappointed with the lack of a sixth gear.

Here is my ten cents worth- Kawasaki is coming out with the Versys... by all accounts it will be a great bike, and far better on the street than the KLR will ever be. It's also more expensive! I know they are not competitors to each other, but why narrow that gap between them by making the KLR more street worthy? By the same token I don't think the KLR needed to be made into a dirt machine... it fills its niche perfectly the way it was, it simply needed some tweaking. What I see possibly happening now is a foray into markets that other bikes are just plain better in. The nearest realistic competitor to the KLR cost twice as much to buy. By tweaking the bike a little but not providing what the consumer wants the company risks having to make further changes to keep up with market demands, this will drive the price of production up and further slow sales since the price was one of the big attractions with this bike.

If I ran Kawasaki (thank god I don't but...since we're dreaming here) I would come out with a one-time changed KLR that had a sixth gear (a lower first gear and a sixth gear higher then the present fifth), better suspension, possibly a little less weight and lower centre of gravity, better stator, and a better doohickey (farm it out to one of the present companies already making a bomber one). Then I'd go for another 20+ year production run. Other things, such as styling and power would be ignored unless they could be made with no change to the bottom line cost of the bike. I wouldn't worry too much about increasing the power since that is not a market the KLR will ever be competing for. I wouldn't change the styling too much... notice that of all the aftermarket products available for the KLR there are no fairings or major "look" upgrades... why? Maybe because the average KLR owner isn't interested in making his 36 Hp bike look like any thing other then what it is... an extremely useful, very reasonable, do it all bike.

As for offering a motard or street version of the KLR... why bother? It would only drive up production costs by watering down the market and requiring new tooling. And there is already the Versys.

I think Kawasaki should make the needed changes to the 2008 KLR and then leave it alone for another 25 years.

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Hey thatVersys is the US 650 Ninja model, that I referenced earlier. Seen one in the shop. The unfaired version looks as dirtworthy as the VStrom, or better. Exhaust is better. Heard the motor got good reviews.

I'm still speculating there's a new dirt oriented KLR in the future. I'd bet money, but the CAN/US exchange rate would make it too complicated.

Pirate: What's the bike you are referring too with the +1500 price tag?

I'm gonna hold my breath till the dirt version comes out, with a lighter frame, bigger suspension, 6th gear....can't.... hold..... much longer.......turning blue.........:tup:

Randy......Uuummphhppuhhhmmmhpuuuhhhh................gaaaaackkkkkk........
 

klrman

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GIVE US A 6TH GEAR!!! Many of us waited 21 years for this:( My guess is Kawasaki really doesn't care what I think, but it's worth a try..:hb:
 
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klrman

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hahaha...Kawasaki needs more than us just huffing and puffing to make some good changes
 
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Dang it, I have to admit. I went to a 14T sprocket from a 15 and am getting almost the same mileage per gallon. Roughly 50 MPG. Thats like 47025000 meters/mililter for you guys up north. I'm wondering if the 6th gear would be a feely/touchy change to get around vibration. Mine actually smooths out much better between 5K and 5.5K RPM and is much funner to ride around town..............Randy
 
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I'd like to see a much lower 1st and second geaer with the same top........uuuammmmpapahhhhhhh.........
 
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The Versys is likely just a street bike....motor is pretty powerful for it's design. Might be way too heavy though, to put this into a real world Dirt Bike.

Some kind of Adventure bike suited to Gravel roads would be cool though.



http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/versys/
 

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According to the specs it's 400Lbs dry, 63 HP,6" travel in the front, 33" saddle height, and a six speed box.
 
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Ranklr wrote,
Pirate: What's the bike you are referring too with the +1500 price tag?


You misunderstood the meaning my friend. I was simply pointing out that many people have a sometimes huge criteria of improvements for the KLR, which if put in to production would amount to a cosiderably more expensive motorcycle. If Kawasaki do manufacture something in the near futurewith all the bells and whistles and a $12,000 price tag, it will be interesting to see who gives up their KLR for it.
 

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They should not charge $12,000 for adding on more gear! That and the doohickey fix would have been enough for the most of us.
 
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A friend of mine is thinking of trading in his bike for a KLR. Not for sure yet. But one thing for sure was that he claimed he would buy a used one over the new one. I think that speaks volumes.
Brian
 

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In Dirtbike Mag..the 2007 is listed as the old style not that fancy new style.
 
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or the kawi z1000........





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For fun, I laid a VFR front fairing & headight (left) against the new KLR front fairing & headlight (right).

Headlights are the first way I identify a bike coming at me. (Okay, I know the KLR is tall and doesn't sound like a V-Four...) But this really struck me...
 
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You know, I was looking at the 2008 again and there might be some useful bits to it. I mean bits that could be transplanted onto an older model. Things like the front KTM like fender. The rear rack possibly, I mean it has no side grab handle extensions that get in the way of saddle bags. Maybe the front instrumentation as well. I heard it may be no longer mounted on the handlebar but stays with the fairing. The ignition is moved as well. It will be interesting to check it out and then wait for parts to show up on Ebay. The signals look nicer too.

I think there will be alot of porting of 2008 stuff over as long as they kept the frame the same and the hole positions the same for mounting.
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hello. this is my first post.

in defense of the new klr650, i must say that, well... i like it, and if it weren't for the redesign, it probably would mean i wouldn't have joined this forum. (my wife intendsto buy it for me as soon as she is done with school).

let me tell you a bit about why i think it's a great bike. you need to understand me as a rider a bit more first.

bikes i have owned chronologically (had them all in my garage at the same time except the kawi which was my first bike)

1978 kz400, 1982 suzuki gs1100, 1976 honda xl-250, 1981 suzuki gs1100, 1985 suzuki gs1150.

i also had the pleasure of touring the swiss alps on a yamaha xjr 1300 (thats xjr, not fjr. not available in north america)

i moved to bc from montreal in the summer of 2006, mostly because the motorcycling is better here. but i noticed you bc folks drive real slow (it's impossible to drive my 180hp zook at 260 km/h because bc cagers never check their mirrors, on the east coast people see us coming and move out of the fast lane)

i'm going to be 36 next week and it's time to lose the super-modified 80's musclebikes behind. plus, the most fun bike i ever had was my xl250 (23" front wheel, great for climbing stairs or tree trunks). i rode that thing through a foot of snow in montreal winters and was going to ice-race it until the muffler fell off...

i'm the type of guy that will ride from sunrise to sunset, i like reliable, comfortablelong-distance bikes (hence the suzuki gs-1100 fetish)

the klr interested me because it had a crank on roller bearings, just like the suzuki gs (that saved my butt once because i was able to drive drive home after springing a major oil leak that emptied my crankcase 25kms from home. i swear by those engines (the old gs))

so when i moved here and saw the mountains, the roads, and found out there was no logging in summer, i realised i was in motorcycle heavenbut that my lowered, super-tweaked, razor-sharp handling 81 gs wasn't going to get me where i wanted to be. time to look for a new bike...

part of me wanted a vstrom 650. great engine, super comfy all day bike, but not off-road enough for me even though i'll probably do 80% road riding. i need a swiss-army bike to do it all from the daily commute to the off-road stuff, and deep down inside, i still want to do 0-100km/h in3 seconds or less (but that's never going to happen again)

the problem with the vstrom, while a good bike is it's not off-road worthy enough (it'd prolly do better than my honda xl250, but still...)

the klr interested me much more, except, it looked too much like a dirt bike and would be nasty on the highway (120km/h on my xl250 was brutal). also, i'm 5'7" and i couldnt get my feet on the ground.

when i went to the tradex show on sunday, and saw the new klr, i sat on it and went: hey! i can get one foot flat down and the other on tippy-toes, with riding boots, i could get them both flat, cool!. only after i got off it did i notice the other changes (mind you the first thing i checked was that the front wheel was still 21"). ok, so im not a very visual sort of guy, but this bike's form fits my function perfectly.

so basically what i'm saying is it's ok for you to whine and complain about the redesign, because you already have klrs, but to a guy like me who doesn't have one yet, this is the perfect ticket into the dual-sport thingy. it has a lot of appeal to someone who wants to get away from the road-bike and into the true dual-sport.and im sure you'd much rather see me on a klr than on a vstrom right? so quit your bitching, dont complain about a bike you won't buy, you already have one, andit's not like a 20 year old klr is about to die of old age, not unless it was neglected...

in any case, i can't wait to read what people will say after riding it. the changes seem just right to me, suspension travel isnt a problem, i have 2 inches on my current bike, lol, and well, im not going to climb boulders,it's a KLR, not a gasgas.only thing is i have to agree about the 5 speed transmission. my zook only has 5 and i like to keep the revs low to save gas, but it ain't happening, i think it pulls close to 5000rpm at 120kph (thank god i have 6000-7000 more rpms to go) but its a waste , cuz that bike has so much torque i can pull off a stop sign in 4th gear and still reach 100 in under 3.5 seconds

sure there's more plastic to break, but hey, if you dont crash it you don't break it, i learnt to keep my tires on the ground a long time ago...

so that's my take on the klr650 redesign. i like it, it means ill get a better and cheaper bike than the zook dl-650 and hell, it's good enough for me offroad, look at what people are doing with bmw's gs 1200, and i bet it's waaaaay heavier than the klr.

oh by the way, if someone wants a super-quick, super-fast, super-cool, super-rebuilt from scratch suzuki gs1100, contact me. i'll trade it for a klr650. it's got an 89 gsxr front end, gsxr wheels and brakes, clubman bars, givi rack and cases, 1183cc engine, 2 sets of carbs and 2 complete exhausts, and comes with4 crates of extra parts. goes like snot and feels as light as a 50cc scooter. i'm attaching a picture.

oh by the way, nice meeting alll you people, and hope to be klr-ing with you soon.
 

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oh i forgot, someone mentionned that it was impossible to see the front wheel while standing on the pegs, and i feel i need to reply to that, because it's a question i have.

i teach driving (not the beginner stuff), i raced cars for years (road-course), and rode a lot of bikes, but have little to no off-road experience, and still, that statement made me cringe. i might be wrong about this, but shouldn't you know where your frontwheel is without looking at it? i mean, i've always taught people to look far and plan ahead and to know exactly where their wheels were. is this different off-road? everywhere else i've driven/ridden, if you look at your front wheel you crash. am i missing something here or is there a time when you ride so slow and it's so tricky that you have to look at the front wheel?
 

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so when i moved here and saw the mountains, the roads, and found out there was no logging in summer, i realised i was in motorcycle heavenbut that my lowered, super-tweaked, razor-sharp handling 81 gs wasn't going to get me where i wanted to be. time to look for a new bike...


Someone's been spinning u a yarn.............. Logging is year round in BC. BEWARE of the BIG trucks with trees on them.

I think KAWASAKI went the wrong way with the KLR. They had bike that would go almost anywhere. now they have a bike that has too many plastic parts that will brake on the first un-scheduled dismount. It's more of a street bike now:hr:

......and welcome to the site bro.

As for the GS. I had a 78,80&82 750. and an 821100L .Great bikes.:tup:
 
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I mentioned the front wheel on one post somewhere and ofcourse you don't stare at it at speed. But I do tend to look at it when I am going really slow over rocks or tough ruts. Other people seem to do fine without seeing it but I'm used to it. A friend of mine owns a DL650 and he is trading it for a KLR I mentioned to him to see if he notices the better downward visibility or he doesn't because he is used to being with out it. I'm sure I would get used to it.

So anyway when I'm standing and I'm trying to go slow as walking and navigate something. Other than that....

Oh and no, I don't have any fender dents in my car because I can't see them:tup:
Brian
 
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Well, I have to comment now.

It's not just the people that own KLR's that are complaining about the change. Some guys I know who would've liked to buy a KLR won't now, or are thinking of buying used. It's NOT a dirt/logging road bike anymore. They have gone the way of the Strommer, comfort at speed while on the road, in my opinion, PERIOD.

It has some changes that us "traditional" owners wanted. Improved top end, luggage rack et al. (BUT I have yet to read anyting about improvements tothe Doo.)

You say you haven't dropped your bike........YET. Remember, there are 2 types of riders, those that have dropped their bikes,and those are about to. Coming from the east part of this huge and beautiful nation, you're going to be surprised with the hills, valleys, woods, and general terrain out here. Short answer, you're going to drop it. When you replace the 100 dollar (+) rad panels, you'll think about taking it off-road again.

The Original KiLleR is an excellent bike. Like most, it has it's own problems. But we've learned to deal wth them collectively (Doo parties!!) and we've realised that the bikes we own are probably the best damn bike for the cash out there. I've dropped it, a few times. All I've had to do is pick it up, start it, and ride brother. Looking at the new one, I'd be picking up pieces of s##t plastic for 20 minutes before I got to ride away.

Again, this is just my opinion. The new KLR is a nice bike, but it's not meant for the same stuff we've been putting the original KLR through.



ps, why the bent side-stand? Anyone?;)
 
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