Kootenays GPX Discussion

sector

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I don't have the ability to make a new forum in the Kootenays (other than go to the administrators), but I do have the ability to stick this thread at the top, if there is enough interest. I know this is the 2nd time this has come up. Send me a PM if you have an opinion...
 
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Going from google earth to GPS is easily accomplished by many ways and the basic concept has been repeated here: save a KML file --> convert to GPX --> upload. gpsvisualizer is one way to convert. DNR Garmin, GPS Babel, and many other utilities is also possible. it is only a matter of time before google earth directly supports this option without having to do the translation in between im sure. as mentioned the direct download is already supported.

there is also this site i havent tried but a coworker pointed out to me
http://www.takitwithme.com/ge2gps.html. essentially you save the KML from GE, open it up, copy paste the code into this site and the rest should be automatic. never tried it so if anyone else has time, let us know how it goes.

GE also supports GPX, so if you use some GPS software and save this into GPX, you can always directly load into GE.

there are also ways to overlay NR Can topo maps in google earth through gpsvisualizer. also can get other info like private lands, TRIM roads, 20m contours, etc, etc. in GE as well though GeoBC's services @ http://archive.ilmb.gov.bc.ca/dm/wms/index.html

iMapBC has the option to upload and also create points and lines which can be downloaded as shapefile --> converted to GPX via DNR Garmin --> upload to GPS.

so many ways to skin a cat. i think a separate forum for posting GPX/GPS route files and info would be great but im not posting all the primo spots on this site for the whole world to see. those are meant to be discovered and its a hell of a lot easier now with the mapping resources that we have at our fingertips. specific questions for local knowledge on a particular route are more likely to get a favorable response from me. for instance, is there still snow in x location. asking for all the goods isn't.

somehow i got sidetracked from planning a backcountry traverse tomorrow at kootenay pass, better get back at it....cheers.
 

Sparkle

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To me there are two main aspects to using GPS/GE/GIS. Once you've made a trip to a certain location you rarely need a GPS to find the way again and the only reason for saving it as a track or route is to share it. We all have our favourite places, and of course I keep some of them private, but I think a MAJOR feature of having a GPS is to have the ability to comunicate and share routes. The routes I posted in

http://www.dualsportbc.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=7693&forum_id=56

for example is the kind of information I'd love to have if I was a rider from another area here on a visit.

But another important use for me, is in planning how to get to a new, previously undiscovered point, or a known point using a different route. I do this several ways...converting paper maps and layering them on GE, or by using various other on-line map resources to create GPX files. For example this picture shows a digitized copy of a 100 year old survey map, superimposed on GE. My mapping program "GPS Trackmaker" also will calibrate this map allowing me to create a GPS route or track to any of the interesting locations, and these include mines, ghost-towns, old trails and survey stations lost in the fog of time. In fact GPS Trackmaker will allow me to calibrate and make a map out of any image I can find. Exiting stuff...for me.





While I'm developing a route to these spots I often run across other interesting spots....unusual terrain, abandoned machinery, and even plane wrecks that show up on old maps or GE and I'll develop a GPS route to go those places too. Sometimes I can't make it, or the target is dissapointing but it's still fun to try.



Most of the planning happens over the winter months...then when I'm ready I load the route on the GPS and away I go. So for me, my requirement isn't to have a library of contour maps in my GPS...but rather a library of routes or tracks that I can follow. While following my proposed track, the real track I follow is recorded and saved. I might not want to share it, but It might help some future investigation.

The use of on-line mapping sites is important to me for a couple of reasons. I use a very old laptop for all my GPS stuff...It's slow and with win98 it can't normally use GE. But GPS Visualizer, for example, will allow it to view GE and also any one of 17 other mapping formats...some of which are very sophisticated and not normally not accessable to the average user. And, all the processing is done on-line so my computer speed doesn't matter. Another great aspect is my little computer is not running any applications except a normal browser, so it performs just as fast as my latest desktop.

It's all in the perspective. For most people a GPS is just another neat accessory on their well-equiped bike, and they're more interested in the bike, or the trip and the company. For me GPS/mapping and off-road motorcycles are a unique combination; the ability to accurately plan a ride to a place you've never been before, record the track, and show the way, coupled with a machine that can make it possible. The fact that the information can be recorded and easy communicated and transfered in a tiny universal computer file, is a bonus.

Sparkle













 
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Leafster

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I agree, usually before a potential ride I'll scope it out on Google Earth and draw in the proposed track in the Garmin software. It also helps to kind of know where you are in once you're out there.
Then, I'll print off a hard copy and stuff that in the tankbag because navigating by 3" GPS screens is tiresome. Besides, you never know if the GPS will survive a crash. That happened last fall, I looped the bike and it landed upside down on the Garmin. Totalled the device but we still had the paper map to navigate by.
Then when you return home and you can review your trip on Google Earth, to me that adds to the experience of exploration and getting to know the backcountry.
 
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