Noobie Ride Details - October 17 2010

soph9

soph9

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Sunday weather

Sunday weather

supposed to be nice out from Friday on....Sunday sounds perfect for the ride!:clap:
 
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motorambler

New member
tomcycle said:
You can go to www.BCORMA.ca and get the Platinum Pass, it will give you the insurance requirements to ride FSR's.
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Does that cover any bike, or only street legal bikes that are unplated? I guess what I'm asking is if one were to buy that platinum pass could they do the Newbie Ride on a dirtbike (no horn, light, mirrors, etc)?
 
TW_rider

TW_rider

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Unless I'm missing something, it appears as though (approximately) one half of this ride is on paved municipal roads, so I'm guessing that without a plated bike, you'll be doing a lot of pushing or "trailer-ing"!
 
WestCoast Rider

WestCoast Rider

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If you are planning on riding the C route; you need a license plate and full road insurance.

If you are riding the B route; you will only require third-party liability from BCORMA or equivalent.

From the staging area to Church Mountain is considered FSR; or a walking area at least. The B-routers will not be leaving the Church area, but the C-routers will be doing a loop around from Vedder across to Ryder Lake and back, on public roads.
 
WestCoast Rider

WestCoast Rider

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motorambler said:
Does that cover any bike, or only street legal bikes that are unplated? I guess what I'm asking is if one were to buy that platinum pass could they do the Newbie Ride on a dirtbike (no horn, light, mirrors, etc)?
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Individual rider $1 million off-road liability insurance is available from BCORMA on-line as our BCORMA Premium-Insured Trail Pass through Oasis Insurance (its here!). The cost for your premium trail pass plus $1 million liability insurance is $160/yr pro-rated on a quarterly basis for the insurance portion. This insurance is for the rider and is not machine-based. This gives you coverage no matter what machine you ride that day. Go to our BCORMA Store to purchase.
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Alternatively, Ericor (on his WR250F unplated) has third-party liability which allows him to ride any FSR, purchased through Open Skies for $500k liability cost him $100. He insured his bike, not the operator. (Anyone who rides that wr250f is covered). He purchased online by submitting his VIN via http://openskiesins.ca/
 
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2 STEP

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Hello all,
Been reading the post here for the 17th ride and the above post from West Coast Rider mentions B route and C route but no A route. Way back one pg 1 or 2 it mentioned that the A route is for us Noobs however the A route was not addressed above as mentioned? The reason I ask is I live out back behind Cultus and ride those roads all the time. I have no 3rd party or a plate and ride a small 200 enduro. I would love to hook up with the group and meet you folks but I dont want to buy 3rd party (Pay the Queen) or plate this little bike. As far as road work its slow and I would only be staying on FSR. Can someone please tell me why this 3rd party is so important?? I mean I dont rip around or ride carelesly,.... I know others do but really, do you refuse riders to join your fun because they dont carry 3rd party?
Thanks
P.S. I may be interested in purchasing the liability which supports the off-roading (even tho Im really adament about not having 3rd party and paying the Queen) But I just dont think the little 200 would ever be fun to dangle with the roadwork.
P.S.S. Can someone give me a reasonable example of trouble without it?

Glenn
 
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scooter

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North Vancouver members meet up

North Vancouver members meet up

Is any one interested in a ride out from Vancouver. Must get myself a truck so I do not have to ride to the spots and back.

Brian
 
JavaJude

JavaJude

Super Moderator
Lucky said:
What are the loop distances?
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The "C" route is just over 100km. There is an opportunity to stop for gas after 20km and after approximately 40km.

I copy and pasted this from a thread that Tom started here:
http://www.dualsportbc.com/forums/showthread.php?8631-Noobie-Ride-B-Route


B Route: Leave the Tamihi Campground
  1. Short Trail by Canpground C+.5km will give you a good taste of what is coming your way for the rest of the day
  2. EZ Street C+ section a 1 km trail that is flat but has all the surface condition you can expect to find on the rest of the route. If you find this section hard and had no fun do not carry on with the rest of the B route
  3. Milk Run B section 2-3 kms Much tighter two track thru some older growth forest, this is a very old foresty grade very cool riding. some mud with some uphill sections that can challenge you. The end of this section has a very steep downhill, about 100 feet.
  4. Deer Run B 2.5kms Starts as a nice ez grade and gets really steep at the bottom, if you did the end of Milk Run you will have no problem here, then a nice long uphill (I remember this from 20+ years ago, it was a nice road, not so nice now) after the uphill you will enter another really cool forested area there is a short hard uphill again (probably the hardest uphill section of the day.there will be spotters here to guide you.) You can return to the main route if this hill is too much.
  5. Freckles B 3 sections totaling about 2 kms all uphill in a second growth forest. This section can be bypassed by taking the main FSR Church Mtn Loop
  6. Church Mtn Loop B 15kms this route we have used for many of the past Noob rides, its a washed out FSR not too hard but you will have to watch it on the loose sections. On the East side on the way down the FSR has been decomissioned and is now a two track. It is in good shape the only section here is a shale slide that if required you can walk you bike the 30 feet.
  7. Tamihi Connector B 2 kms About 3/4 of the way down from the Church Mtn Loop you will make a right turn to the Connector. Nice EZ Old Old Forestry Grade. There is a steep downhill to the creek with a easier grade out. The final grade out is a little loose and a lot of water that will drop you on a new logging road from there you are only a km from the campsite
Thats it, If you are fast and the weather is good I can send you back out on some harder stuff. Or you can stop and have Lunch and enjoy the company.
 
JavaJude

JavaJude

Super Moderator
For those of you who are interested there is BC Gov't camping at the staging area. I understand that Tom and the bus will be going up on Saturday to camp.

If you want more info PM me.
 
skidmark43

skidmark43

Administrator / BFF in the blue jacket
2 STEP said:
Hello all,
Been reading the post here for the 17th ride and the above post from West Coast Rider mentions B route and C route but no A route. Way back one pg 1 or 2 it mentioned that the A route is for us Noobs however the A route was not addressed above as mentioned? The reason I ask is I live out back behind Cultus and ride those roads all the time. I have no 3rd party or a plate and ride a small 200 enduro. I would love to hook up with the group and meet you folks but I dont want to buy 3rd party (Pay the Queen) or plate this little bike. As far as road work its slow and I would only be staying on FSR. Can someone please tell me why this 3rd party is so important?? I mean I dont rip around or ride carelesly,.... I know others do but really, do you refuse riders to join your fun because they dont carry 3rd party?
Thanks
P.S. I may be interested in purchasing the liability which supports the off-roading (even tho Im really adament about not having 3rd party and paying the Queen) But I just dont think the little 200 would ever be fun to dangle with the roadwork.
P.S.S. Can someone give me a reasonable example of trouble without it?

Glenn
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Why break the law by riding a bike off your personal property without (inexpensive) liability insurance?

From a practical standpoint, I believe that if you are uninsured and you cause damage to someone or something (and don't leave the scene like a weasel), you're exposed to paying some bills or getting sued back into the stone-age.

Last week police were at the Vance Road gate, checking for stolen bikes & liability insurance. This protects us all & I hope they attend this weekend also.

If you want to continue this discussion please use a subject-dedicated thread.

Mark
 
toowheels

toowheels

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Giant Loop gear at the Fall Noobie ride

Giant Loop gear at the Fall Noobie ride

Hey riders!

Just wanted to let everyone know that I'll be there with all the Giant Loop bags.

So if you want to check them out and see what they are all about and how they fit on your machine...you are welcome to!

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Fandango tank bag and Coyote saddlebag (30L)

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MoJavi saddlebag (10L)

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Great Basin (50L) and the Fandango again.

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Wachs (1/2 of Giant Loop) testing a proto MoJavi and he has a Fandango along for the ride too.

Thanks, lookin' forward to it and see y'all there!! :D

Dave
www.motooverland.com
 

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Northern Moose

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Hi Everyone

Do I need to be a member of the DualSportBC in order to participate at the event??
 
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Dizo

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JavaJude said:
The "C" route is just over 100km. There is an opportunity to stop for gas after 20km and after approximately 40km.

I copy and pasted this from a thread that Tom started here:
http://www.dualsportbc.com/forums/showthread.php?8631-Noobie-Ride-B-Route


B Route: Leave the Tamihi Campground
  1. Short Trail by Canpground C+.5km will give you a good taste of what is coming your way for the rest of the day
  2. EZ Street C+ section a 1 km trail that is flat but has all the surface condition you can expect to find on the rest of the route. If you find this section hard and had no fun do not carry on with the rest of the B route
  3. Milk Run B section 2-3 kms Much tighter two track thru some older growth forest, this is a very old foresty grade very cool riding. some mud with some uphill sections that can challenge you. The end of this section has a very steep downhill, about 100 feet.
  4. Deer Run B 2.5kms Starts as a nice ez grade and gets really steep at the bottom, if you did the end of Milk Run you will have no problem here, then a nice long uphill (I remember this from 20+ years ago, it was a nice road, not so nice now) after the uphill you will enter another really cool forested area there is a short hard uphill again (probably the hardest uphill section of the day.there will be spotters here to guide you.) You can return to the main route if this hill is too much.
  5. Freckles B 3 sections totaling about 2 kms all uphill in a second growth forest. This section can be bypassed by taking the main FSR Church Mtn Loop
  6. Church Mtn Loop B 15kms this route we have used for many of the past Noob rides, its a washed out FSR not too hard but you will have to watch it on the loose sections. On the East side on the way down the FSR has been decomissioned and is now a two track. It is in good shape the only section here is a shale slide that if required you can walk you bike the 30 feet.
  7. Tamihi Connector B 2 kms About 3/4 of the way down from the Church Mtn Loop you will make a right turn to the Connector. Nice EZ Old Old Forestry Grade. There is a steep downhill to the creek with a easier grade out. The final grade out is a little loose and a lot of water that will drop you on a new logging road from there you are only a km from the campsite
Thats it, If you are fast and the weather is good I can send you back out on some harder stuff. Or you can stop and have Lunch and enjoy the company.
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Yeesh, you're making me have doubts!
If we're not doing so hot on 'EZ Street' or 'Milk Run' is it fairly easy to bail and join up the C route? I feel like the C route is grated gravel roads (boring easy) and the way you explain it, the B routes seems a bit tough! Do any KLR's ride the B loop, or is it purely <650 bikes?

'Last rider out' is 10, so when will the ride actually be starting? Is arriving at 9:30 too late?
 
JavaJude

JavaJude

Super Moderator
Making it's first ever appearance at the Newbie Ride will be a BMW 650/800 GS newly equiped with a fairing from Britannia Composites. This fairing makes a huge difference in the way the bike rides in terms of reducing the wind impact on the rider. Plus there is ample space on the dash to mount a GPS above the instruments. If you are interested in this fairing come on out to the Newbie Ride and talk to Ian from Britannia Composites. This is the first one made for the BMW 650/800 GS. Ian is taking orders and will be going into production for this model very soon. For more info go to: http://www.britanniacomposites.com/

 
JavaJude

JavaJude

Super Moderator
Dizo said:
Yeesh, you're making me have doubts!
If we're not doing so hot on 'EZ Street' or 'Milk Run' is it fairly easy to bail and join up the C route? I feel like the C route is grated gravel roads (boring easy) and the way you explain it, the B routes seems a bit tough! Do any KLR's ride the B loop, or is it purely <650 bikes?

'Last rider out' is 10, so when will the ride actually be starting? Is arriving at 9:30 too late?
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We suggest you get there as early as you can so you will not miss the Riders' meeting which we plan to start at 9:15am.
 
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