Project 525EXC Dualsport

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640in604

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joker650 wrote:
Paul there is a pic of all the plug-ins behind the #(er... headlight)plate. Did you happen to use dielectric grease on any of the connections? I find it helps eliminate bad connections due to corrosion over time. It keeps all the moisture out.

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Nice job buddy:tup:
Yes, in fact I did use that exact same stuff too!:tup: Good advice for a bike that's gonna be gettin wet, don't need corrosion on your electrical contacts ruining your ride!

And I was loc-titing all the fasteners with "Blue" permatex Loctite. Don't need my signals vibrating off etc... hehe.

Paul
 
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ElChupacabra

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HeadinSouth wrote:
Was it difficult to 'plate' your 525?
Piece of cake really. When I was picked up the bike I requested that an insurance guy be there to do the new vehicle ICBC registration. Technically you can do this with just about any bike when brand new. Then its just up to you to have the proper equipment required by law on the bike before you take it on the street.

If your bike was never "registered" when new, then you will have to do the other rig-a-ma-roll with having it inspected etc...:mad3:

The plate is in my garage, but hasn't been mounted on the bike yet. So the difficulty of the actual "plating" I can't comment on yet.;)

Cheers!

Paul:hb:
 

Island Hopper

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Is that a new rule , you get a new bike and you become a newbe. I guess you don't have the 640 anymore so the name sorta didn't fit anyways. So what's the latest with the 525? You get that new tank yet?
 
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ElChupacabra

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Island Hopper wrote:
Is that a new rule , you get a new bike and you become a newbe. I guess you don't have the 640 anymore so the name sorta didn't fit anyways. So what's the latest with the 525? You get that new tank yet?
Well, 525in604 wasnt nearly as clever. So since I couldn't change my name, I started a new account.

The tank isn't expected until March...sigh.:?

But I have some other goodies to install....
 
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ElChupacabra

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Went down to Sumas,WA to the shipping company that all my goodies are shipped to. It's called "Ship Happens", and for $4 a package they are my US Postal address. This is real handy because some places really jack you on border brokerage, shipping to US.

In fact, it's probably not them, it's those boys in brown that bend you over when you want something shipped to Canuckistan.
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Crossing an international border (such as it is) on a Saturday was stupid. Tons of traffic. Is hould have just parked and walked across, the place is only 3 blocks down... Oh well, $4 for my package, and $12 for diesel fuel - lazy ass
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It was my Flatland Racing Rad guards and my Enduro Engineering Header pipe guard. Not the guard that protects your headpipe from stones, the one that protects your pants from melting to the pipe...
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Very excited to install some new parts, I head out into the garage. My bench is a mess, and there are bags and boxes of parts all over. I start a little clean-up and found the grease I bought after reading Gaspipe's XR650 thread. It was the only Calcium based grease I could find around here without ordering from an industrial supply place.

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Coincidentally my grease gun is empty, so instead of filing the tubes of grease on the "Oils, Lubes and Shit" shelf I figure I'd refill the grease gun while I'm at it.

Once that was done (I made one hella mess doin it for some reason), I was itchin to try it out. The old 640 had a zerk fitting down on the linkage, the good 'ol 525EXC has no linkage - so no zerk fitting.
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Crap...hmm if I'm gonna try out my new grease, it means dismantling something. Allllllrighty then!! Brand new 525EXC front end coming apart!
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When Gassy took his new XR head apart, he found that the bearings were pretty much dry. I was curious to see how liberal the KTM assembly team was with their lube.

Gaspipe's Honda XR650 steering head bearing:
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My KTM 525EXC steering head bearing:
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Pretty sad. Basically dry as well
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I can't say I was too upset, the grease was stickier than bear-shit on a wool blanket. There just wasn't very much of it s'all. The top bearing was packed a little better:

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But that didn't matter, they were both getting pulled.

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I thought I may as well get a shot of the Timken bearing number on this puppy should I need it in the future.

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I didn't have a proper bearing packer, so I put on the latex gloves and got the mess going. I found pressing my grease gun up against the side of the bearing and squeezing in a good shot until it was oozing out everywhere. Then just working it in with my fingers. I used a lot more grease than I had figured, but I was happy with the finished product. Repacked and installed

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And the top. The word here is "liberal" application of grease!

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Of course I greased the races and glopped on a little extra here and there just as a method for excluding water in the likely event of total submersion or riding in a torrent.

Then I buttoned her all back up. A job well done, time to celebrate with a cold Pale Ale. Ahhhh... That's why they include an a beer opener in the KTM tool kit. You pretty much need that thing for every repair!!

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Cleaned up all my grease mess, and that was about it. Time to go back inside and play with kids, chill out and enjoy the rest of my Sunday. It's funny, I was so stoked to get those rad guards installed! But, I guess what I really needed was just to go do something, ANYTHING on my bike since I can't ride right now. I'm excited about this coming week because I still have to install those rad guards yet!

Mind you, I have to finish cleaning off the bench too - and who knows what I'll get sidetracked doing next...

Cheers!
 
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ElChupacabra

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Hooligan wrote:
Paul,

you gotta change that picture dude....

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This is my avatar on advrider and Trailpilgrim.

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But I think some people may find it a little offensive arfound here?
 

Hooligan

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You know how one put a face to a picture...or a person to a voice......this one'sto your detrement....trust me.

The monkey with the beer glass, that I could picture......:tup:

......talking of which, when are we having one again?

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ElChupacabra

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OK, the monkey man is back
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As far as pints go, the sooner the better.
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I have a couple cold Guinness in the fridge right now that are calling my name. Well, one of them is anyways.
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I have your number Hooli, we'll see if we can meet at Jimy Macs one evening this week if you are going to be spending some time in Port Kells?

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skidmark43

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ElChupacabra wrote:
I have your number Hooli, we'll see if we can meet at Jimy Macs one evening this week if you are going to be spending some time in Port Kells?
Tuesday nights = Toonie Burgers @ Jimy Macs. Many of the cool DSBC folks (who are also GVMC members) show up around 8:30pm. Or if you'll be there earlier, please let us know & we'll catch you before our (7:30) GVMC meeting.

Port Kells / Walnut Grove sure is a long way for Hooligan though...:(
 
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ElChupacabra

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skidmark43 wrote:
Port Kells / Walnut Grove sure is a long way for Hooligan though...:(
Hooli is working in Port Kells frequently right now. I might see you guys tonight. .
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-Paul
 

Hooligan

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I will keep this in mind for next week(s).....

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ElChupacabra

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HeadinSouth wrote:
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Did you get those gloves from the boys workin' the boarder?
Hehe, I have been using the latex or nitrile gloves for the really greasy/oily work for the last year. I never have to scrub grease outta my hands and fingernailsanymore - awesome! I also use those mechanix gloves for the rest of the work too. Took awhile to get used to the change in dexterity, but now I don't work without them.

Man I got some more stuff to post, I gotta get caught up on this thread. Coming soon....

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Cheers!

Paul
 
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Sixgillwrote:

Hi there,

...I was just wondering what you paid for the "wiring conversion to make it street legal" ??

Do you think the engine would hold up with 1000km travel days ?



Hi Sixgill, the wiring conversion is sold as a complete kit from Cyclezone for $449 USD. 640in604 wrote:
1000km days I would worry more about my ass :mb:and less about the engine - hehe.

But seriously, this is not a bike to ride those kind of miles on. If that was my goal I would pick abigger bike. I want to be able to ride a 700km day once a year, and the rest of the time 300km would be a MAX. I am offroad most of the time, so riding 400kms of dirt is pretty ambitious unless its all wide open. The other 80% of the time, the bike will be in dirt bike trim for pure off-roading. Those days are maybe 120kms max.

Youmight kill the engine and transmissionwithout adding extra oil capacity and an oil cooler running for hours on end at high revs. Thisbike has shared oilfor transmission/engine and its less than a liter. BUT!! The bike is geared to easily reach 140 km/h from the factory, and with its torque could be lugged along (at lower rpms) in 6th gear at 100km/h for a long day I'm sure. I am adding the oil cooler to increase oil capacity and cooling for that exact reason. Transmission longevity actually.

The mileage limit is on rider fatigueI'd wager, not the engine. I think that this is a light bike (gets blown around), that will vibrate at speed because it has rimlocks, has no wind protection, so all of the above will contribute to rider fatigue. I'll add a small windscreen for longer rides, and balance the wheels best I can to help with this. Switching to a 25liter tank and filling it would also add mass for long road sections. Not to mention, don't bite off any 1000km days!

The guys that raced 525s in the Dakar Rally this year ran STOCK motors with the same oil cooler than I'm going to buy. Check out this thread on advrider.

I hope that wasn't too convoluted. They were both good questions, and I'm going to add them as a post on the thread.

Cheers!

Paul
 
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Gone are the days when I was waiting for parts to arrive, and these are the days of "get off yer ass and get some of those goodies bolted up!" I kinda lew off work this afternoon for a multitude of reasons
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and spent some time working on the bike.

Once again, 2 minutes with the good 'ol KTM toolkit and the 8mm socket and we're here. This episode we'll be mounting the cooling fan kit as well as the radiator guards.
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Well "they" say to drain the coolant from the system, then install the temperature switch into the right radiator. I say "how much coolant could I lose if I just undo that plug and block the hole with my thumb then install the switch? I rolled the bike out onto the gravel beside the driveway to minimize the cleanup. Besides our stupid cat was in the garage and he prolly would have started drinkin the coolant etc...

SO I got the temperature switch that came in the KTM Fan Kit 59035041044 and put some teflon tape on the threads.

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BUT! When I remove the plug there is no thread sealant on it at all. Then I realise that it is not tapered either. Whoops, brain-fart
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. I screw the plug back in. I remove the teflon tape from the switch, then redo the installation. Even dicking around with it twice, I estimate the amount of coolant lost was approximately less than 1/2 oz.

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Nicely in place and snugg'd up, the power for this sucker is still exactly where we left it zip-tied after the wiring harness install.

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I'm pretty confident that the rad guards are going to interfere with the fan installation somehow, so I figure I had better install them first and find out. The first step is to mount the cross brace that goes across the back of the rads from one side to the other.

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It does not attach to the rad directly. It only attaches to the rad guards, and the center frame on the bike.

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There is an "L" bracket that gets mounted to the center frame of the bike with a Stainless hose clamp. You must unbolt the rads (you will be installing new hardware anyway) and I had to remove one to fish the cross brace through and wrangle it into position.

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I managed to ding a few of the fins in the process, very minor, yet very very easy to do. Look at those fins sideways and they bend like you have telekenesis or something. Maybe less telekenetic power and more ham-fisted installer technique perhaps, but the brace got in there and I remounted the left rad. I didn't remove it from the bike completely just moved it out of the way slightly.

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With the cross brace mounted and secure, I bolted up the left rad cover. FYI, the rad protectors were from Flatland Racing and are pretty skookum. They have a good box section design that make them rigid as hell. I think I could have driven over them with my 3/4T Silverado and not dented 'em.

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The left one bolted up real easy, and there is a small tapered head screw that you connect the guard to the cross brace. Of course the Permatex Blue was on the job there.

Now on to the side the fan will be getting mounted up to, this should prove to be a little more work.
 

Island Hopper

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This is like the KTM slogan "THE STORY CONTINUES". All those projects are getting you pretty familiar with the workings of the bike. I just repacked the steering head bearings on my adventure, they weren't totally dry, but if I'd left it much longer they would have been. Keep going, I'd like to check out your bike once all your projects are complete, be interested to see what the lifespan of the 525 motor will be.
 
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ElChupacabra

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Island Hopper wrote:
...be interested to see what the lifespan of the 525 motor will be.
It'll last as long as I'm willing to keep rebuilding it:D.
 
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Very nice, very very nice, very nice indeed. Thanks for the 'dutch boy' tip of just sticking the finger over the hole instead of draining the whole cooling system. My dogs and cat thank you.

I'm about to throw a fan on my SXC but I think I'll need to getthat thermal switch too. Hopefully the parts fiche will tell me if the plugs from an LC4 radiator are a match to the RFS radiators.
 
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