Registering an XR650R?Or any offroad bike for street use?

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spc wrote:

KTM spent the money to get their bikes certified by Transport Canada. If other companies (Husky, Yamie, Honda, etc) were willing to spend the money needed to have their bikes certified we would all gain. Instead of complaining about government rules we should be complaining about companies that are not giving us the bikes we want. Maybe we should give KTM a pat on the back for taking the steps needed to provide us with LEGAL dual-sport bikes!

You're right spc, all the manufacturers should follow K.T.M. with proper dualsport bikes. The problem right now is all the people (including myself) that have recently shelved out a bunch of money and legaly insured a bike for the road, might face having their plates taken away ? The dealers sold these bikes and told us no problem to put them on the road. My question is will these dealers now continue to have these bikes inspected for their customers and will they continue to advertise these bikes as being dualsportable? They may end up giving people their money back.

 

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spc wrote:

Blackmax wrote:

Gee, I wonder if some people are pushing for these changes ? K.T.M. has the big bore dualsports that don't require inspection. The salesman I spoke to the other day would have lots to gain if Husky,Yamie and Honda and others couldn't get their bikes passed.

KTM spent the money to get their bikes certified by Transport Canada. If other companies (Husky, Yamie, Honda, etc) were willing to spend the money needed to have their bikes certified we would all gain. Instead of complaining about government rules we should be complaining about companies that are not giving us the bikes we want. Maybe we should give KTM a pat on the back for taking the steps needed to provide us with LEGAL dual-sport bikes!

+1. :hb:

 

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I think another problem that is being overlooked here is the prohibitive cost Transport Canada chargesthe manufacturers for the testing. Many smaller companies (Sherco, GasGas, etc...) can't afford it, and those that can, often can't justify it for the number of units they'll sell.

 

[old trials guy]

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As I mentioned on the other thread, I don't think any provincial government will have the will or lack ofsavvy to open up this can of worms. They might block the door for future registration via inspection but if they tackle dual sport dirt bikesthen they also have to address custom cars, raised or modified trucks, suv's, jeeps not to mention choppers. Again, they cannot keep up with commercial vehicles failing to meet standards which pose a much larger threat to public safety.

I hear lots of concerns about ticketing non-conforming dual sports but when did someone actually get pulled over and ticketed? I have never heard of it happening.

Canadian DOT testing is absolutely prohibitive for the small importers and the Japanese will continue to produce theiridea of dual sport bikes which for the most part are decent road bikes but very few shine in the dirt. KTM does have it right but not everyone wants a pumkin.

Just one more freedom on the chopping block.

otg

 

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old trials guy wrote:

As I mentioned on the other thread, I don't think any provincial government will have the will or lack ofsavvy to open up this can of worms. They might block the door for future registration via inspection but if they tackle dual sport dirt bikesthen they also have to address custom cars, raised or modified trucks, suv's, jeeps not to mention choppers. Again, they cannot keep up with commercial vehicles failing to meet standards which pose a much larger threat to public safety.

I hear lots of concerns about ticketing non-conforming dual sports but when did someone actually get pulled over and ticketed? I have never heard of it happening.

Canadian DOT testing is absolutely prohibitive for the small importers and the Japanese will continue to produce theiridea of dual sport bikes which for the most part are decent road bikes but very few shine in the dirt. KTM does have it right but not everyone wants a pumkin.

Just one more freedom on the chopping block.

otg

Plus all ultralights, kit planes, trucks you may have changed the box on, cars with after market wheels, and the list goes on.



If grandfathered in, your pretty much given license to ride.



My parents have an old car they legally drive WITHOUT seatbelts....it was not law then, and its grandfathered still today.

 

[Lucky]

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RocketMan wrote:

I converted a 650r and cant see where you had problems.kit installed-inspected-passed-insurace office to register-go to GOV office to notarize WTF?-come back insurance lady checks Vin-papers-Vrrrrrrrom

What conversion kit have you used?

 

[Bedford90]

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Well i was talking with Ryan at Rivercity and he was telling me that enduro to dual sport conversions are a no go. Then I was up at Yamaha where they hve an 08 WR450 that they converted and it was previously registered but the owner sold it back to them because he wasn't riding it.

So which is it? I've looked at the KTMs and understand they're great bikes but pumpkins aren't for me I hear just enough horror stories to be gun shy. I've got a local dealer with three Kawi 450R's and I'd love to know if I can convert one.

Thanks and let's keep our fingers crossed.

In other news I was told Suzuki may replace the DRZ400 with a 450 next year. Supposidly it would be more performance oriented, fuel injected and best of all street legal.

 

[joker650]

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Whats the differance between building a custom car, getting it inspected and plated and doing the same thing with a dirt bike ??

 

[Lucky]

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joker650 wrote:

Whats the differance between building a custom car, getting it inspected and plated and doing the same thing with a dirt bike ??

Seems different application forms because different type (MC, Off road use only, rebuild, custom...).

 

[bajaman]

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I have 2 of the so call illegal bikes and have not had any problems getting them certified:tupr riding them on the steet.This topic is kinda like beating a dead house....YES PEOPLE YOU CAN MAKE A DIRT BIKE ROAD LEGAL.:dr:I have a 2 question to all DSBC members.....Has any one had an accident with a dirt bike they had certified for the road...and has any one had there certification pulled by DOT or any police agencies????Just curious on what the out come was.Also this is a funny one...I have a 1975 KX 400...No were on the bike is there an OFF ROAD only or a RUM sticker...So technically I could put batteries under the seat to run all the signal lights,horn.brake lights...etc... charge after every ride..get pulled over and keep on riding:dr:.

 

[bajaman]

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I think I am going to dualsport this .......just to prove a point....because I CAN.:mb:

 

[bajaman]

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The wifes "illegal"bike.:shock:

 

[bajaman]

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My "illegal"bike...come a get me DOT.:mb:

 

[tspoon]

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I am hearing rumors of people receiving letters from ICBC requesting plates to be turned in on converted bikes. Does anyone have any facts? What happened to the grandfather clause? Apparently happened in Vernon.:hr: :spl:

 

[bajaman]

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That's the first time I heard anything about that,maybe someone will post who received one of these letters,if this is true.You would think that everyone who had converted bikesin B.C.would get theletters at the same time.:hr:

 

[Dan]

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I am totally going to get some DOT legal tires on one of these Z50's that are sitting in front of me and try to push it through an inspection. They're old, have no decals regarding Restricted use or anyting, just a serial number.

The problem is, it is ultimately up to the inspector, since it is their license on the line if something they passed causes an accident.