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rider impressions TE610/SMR 610
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Strongleftleg
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Bayner wrote:
Yeah it hauls, but I only race for pinks.
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Bayner wrote:
Yeah it hauls, but I only race for pinks.
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zokalr13 wrote:
Thumper forum on Adventure Rider has lots of threads on the bikes you are interested in. They are full of information from bike owners + other 'tards. You'll find it way more informative on bikes than here, although there is plenty of PUI there as well. Good luck with the new bike.
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zokalr13 wrote:
Thumper forum on Adventure Rider has lots of threads on the bikes you are interested in. They are full of information from bike owners + other 'tards. You'll find it way more informative on bikes than here, although there is plenty of PUI there as well. Good luck with the new bike.
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PaulBurke wrote:
:ted:With all due respect:
I have gone on to ADV Rider a number of times to obtain info on bikes. You are correct, ADV R is full of information HOWEVER in my humble opinion I have found that I have to sift thru hundreds and hundreds of posts to find anything that I would consider useful information.
:ted:Again, with all due respect and IMHO I would rathertalk to local members who ride in relatively the same areas that I ride in and notsome complete stranger from Backwater Arkansa who I will never ever meet.
:ted:Again, with all due respect, I appreciate that local dealers (such as Brian from Island BMW and Bill from 5th Gear) can provide their input on the bikes that they stand behind. I am far more likely to do business with them then someone in Texas.
I enjoy the good natured banter on this forum and I respect the opinons posted by fellow members and dealers. If one just wants specs on a bike then one could get it from the manufactures' websites. But if you want real opinions from real people in your own area then this is the place to be.
Now as faras my impression of the TE 610 . . . . I can only compare it to my DRZ 400 that I have been riding for the last 2 years. the TE 610 kicks :wi:the DRZ's a$$. More power and agility at the same bike weight.Why don't I own a TE 610 you ask . . . . well. . . . let'ssee what happens in the next couple of weeks.
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PaulBurke wrote:
:ted:With all due respect:
I have gone on to ADV Rider a number of times to obtain info on bikes. You are correct, ADV R is full of information HOWEVER in my humble opinion I have found that I have to sift thru hundreds and hundreds of posts to find anything that I would consider useful information.
:ted:Again, with all due respect and IMHO I would rathertalk to local members who ride in relatively the same areas that I ride in and notsome complete stranger from Backwater Arkansa who I will never ever meet.
:ted:Again, with all due respect, I appreciate that local dealers (such as Brian from Island BMW and Bill from 5th Gear) can provide their input on the bikes that they stand behind. I am far more likely to do business with them then someone in Texas.
I enjoy the good natured banter on this forum and I respect the opinons posted by fellow members and dealers. If one just wants specs on a bike then one could get it from the manufactures' websites. But if you want real opinions from real people in your own area then this is the place to be.
Now as faras my impression of the TE 610 . . . . I can only compare it to my DRZ 400 that I have been riding for the last 2 years. the TE 610 kicks :wi:the DRZ's a$$. More power and agility at the same bike weight.Why don't I own a TE 610 you ask . . . . well. . . . let'ssee what happens in the next couple of weeks
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DRZ 400 dry 291 lbs.
TE610 dry 309.7 lbs.
Pretty close. Sorry, I had to check. :ted:
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DRZ 400 dry 291 lbs.
TE610 dry 309.7 lbs.
Pretty close. Sorry, I had to check. :ted:
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TE 610 dry weight is no fuel
DRZ dry weight . no fuel , oil, fork oil, brake fluid, battery, coolant.
Also the C of G on the TE 610 makes it feel way more agile than the DRZ. Husky keeps the weight down low were it should be. Not that I'm bashing the DRZ but it does feel heavier in slow speed tight stuff.
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TE 610 dry weight is no fuel
DRZ dry weight . no fuel , oil, fork oil, brake fluid, battery, coolant.
Also the C of G on the TE 610 makes it feel way more agile than the DRZ. Husky keeps the weight down low were it should be. Not that I'm bashing the DRZ but it does feel heavier in slow speed tight stuff.
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Well that has to be the most retarded thing I have heard. Might as well remove the tires too! :shock:
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Well that has to be the most retarded thing I have heard. Might as well remove the tires too! :shock:
The Pope
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JavaJude wrote:
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:tup:yeah jude, 100% agree.
:ted:With all due respect:
I have gone on to ADV Rider a number of times to obtain info on bikes. You are correct, ADV R is full of information HOWEVER in my humble opinion I have found that I have to sift thru hundreds and hundreds of posts to find anything that I would consider useful information.
:ted:Again, with all due respect and IMHO I would rathertalk to local members who ride in relatively the same areas that I ride in and notsome complete stranger from Backwater Arkansa who I will never ever meet.
:ted:Again, with all due respect, I appreciate that local dealers (such as Brian from Island BMW and Bill from 5th Gear) can provide their input on the bikes that they stand behind. I am far more likely to do business with them then someone in Texas.
I enjoy the good natured banter on this forum and I respect the opinons posted by fellow members and dealers. If one just wants specs on a bike then one could get it from the manufactures' websites. But if you want real opinions from real people in your own area then this is the place to be.
Now as faras my impression of the TE 610 . . . . I can only compare it to my DRZ 400 that I have been riding for the last 2 years. the TE 610 kicks :wi:the DRZ's a$$. More power and agility at the same bike weight.Why don't I own a TE 610 you ask . . . . well. . . . let'ssee what happens in the next couple of weeks
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JavaJude wrote:
Judy, sorry if my post came off in the wrong way. This is still my favourite moto site, still more crazies than 'tards. And you're one of my favourites!:tup:
Happy PUI Friday!
BTW, my buddy Mark's 2nd choice of bike if the going is rough? His KLR. He has a 950 KTM that he finds is not as comfy in the rough stuff as his KLR. So there's a guy with a TE-610, KLR650, KTM950 and that is also the order of his preference for offroad adventure touring. Cool huh?
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JavaJude wrote:
Now as faras my impression of the TE 610 . . . . I can only compare it to my DRZ 400 that I have been riding for the last 2 years. the TE 610 kicks :wi:the DRZ's a$$. More power and agility at the same bike weight.Why don't I own a TE 610 you ask . . . . well. . . . let'ssee what happens in the next couple of weeks
PaulBurke wrote:
Jude, like you,I don't own one,I haven't ridden one,so I'd alsojust be offeringmy opinion (which is like taking a recommendation on a nice plate of Liver and Onions fom someone who has never eaten it). Thetitle of threadis "RIDER IMPRESSIONS..." implying you must own and ride one of them.
Iappreciate the contributions from Bill and Ian. I also think the TE-610 kicksbutt based onspendingsome timeriding offroad withmy friend Mark who owns one (www.bigdogadventures.com), that has put about 13,000 miles on his without any major issues. But again,his info can be found on ADVrider along with another hundred owners, not here where there are two or three owners. Hence, my post. I was just trying to helpZ-man out.
Judy, sorry if my post came off in the wrong way. This is still my favourite moto site, still more crazies than 'tards. And you're one of my favourites!:tup:
Happy PUI Friday!
BTW, my buddy Mark's 2nd choice of bike if the going is rough? His KLR. He has a 950 KTM that he finds is not as comfy in the rough stuff as his KLR. So there's a guy with a TE-610, KLR650, KTM950 and that is also the order of his preference for offroad adventure touring. Cool huh?
zokalr13
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the HUSKY sounds like a great bike :ss:my dilemma is ive got about two weeks left to order one [sight unseen]..if i trade my ZZR600 in on it what would they give me?? i really need a dirt-capable bike ..the other choices would be a CRFX450, WR450,or maybe an older CR or KX 500......heres what else i need: garage enclosed ,KOI pond, new deck,hot tub, 15 ft bowrider boat,braces for my kid,suspension lift for my explorer,landscaping for the property,driveway repair,basement finished,nook for kitchen,ps3,..etc..so you see, im finding it hard to focus right now as well my family situation[elder care and deaths looming] i want a newbike ............and i want it ...........NOW.......................!!
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the HUSKY sounds like a great bike :ss:my dilemma is ive got about two weeks left to order one [sight unseen]..if i trade my ZZR600 in on it what would they give me?? i really need a dirt-capable bike ..the other choices would be a CRFX450, WR450,or maybe an older CR or KX 500......heres what else i need: garage enclosed ,KOI pond, new deck,hot tub, 15 ft bowrider boat,braces for my kid,suspension lift for my explorer,landscaping for the property,driveway repair,basement finished,nook for kitchen,ps3,..etc..so you see, im finding it hard to focus right now as well my family situation[elder care and deaths looming]
i want a newbike ............and i want it ...........NOW.......................!!
Big Boar
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dooveman wrote:
Yeah, I don't know why the Japaneese big 4 bike companies do that. I guess they want the weight spec to look lower than it is. It'slike faulse advertizing when they do that.
We have a very accurate digital scale at work that I wanted use to weigh my TE510 and my brothers XR650R, ready to ride with no fuel but all mods and accesories done (real honest weight), but the scale only goes to 100kg (220lbs). If anybody has access to a scale like this, it would be great to weigh a bunch of bikes at the next DSBC event.
I rode a TE610 and it's very a capable bike. For me personaly, I'll take my TE510 over any other bike I have ridden. It's absolutly flawless so far with almost 10,000 km. I would recommend it as a dual sport bike to anyone that would like a 90/10 dirt/street bike.
ps. Best DOT tires I put on my bike -- Michelin AC10 front and back-- They rock!! but do add a few pounds to the bike.
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Yeah, I don't know why the Japaneese big 4 bike companies do that. I guess they want the weight spec to look lower than it is. It'slike faulse advertizing when they do that.
We have a very accurate digital scale at work that I wanted use to weigh my TE510 and my brothers XR650R, ready to ride with no fuel but all mods and accesories done (real honest weight), but the scale only goes to 100kg (220lbs). If anybody has access to a scale like this, it would be great to weigh a bunch of bikes at the next DSBC event.
I rode a TE610 and it's very a capable bike. For me personaly, I'll take my TE510 over any other bike I have ridden. It's absolutly flawless so far with almost 10,000 km. I would recommend it as a dual sport bike to anyone that would like a 90/10 dirt/street bike.
ps. Best DOT tires I put on my bike -- Michelin AC10 front and back-- They rock!! but do add a few pounds to the bike
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Husky should do ready to ride weights, as in full of gas, and then compare that to the other bikes ready to ride weights.....then they would really appear lighter.... only problem is they have such a pathetic tank if you plan to rideanywhere into the wilderness you have to strap gas all over the bike, or leave it in there and walk home.....LMFAO
Oh ya, my klr weighs more, but it should packing the fuel to actually go on a real trip into the woods.
Husky's new ad slogan should be " We built a bike that will beat the competition into the woods ! But wear good walking shoes for the return trip "
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Husky should do ready to ride weights, as in full of gas, and then compare that to the other bikes ready to ride weights.....then they would really appear lighter.... only problem is they have such a pathetic tank if you plan to rideanywhere into the wilderness you have to strap gas all over the bike, or leave it in there and walk home.....LMFAO
Oh ya, my klr weighs more, but it should packing the fuel to actually go on a real trip into the woods.
Husky's new ad slogan should be " We built a bike that will beat the competition into the woods ! But wear good walking shoes for the return trip "
Big Boar
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ChanceIt wrote:
I did3 rides with DSBC last year; DZ, RR, LS, and a few other trips to Van Isl. and other long rides and had no fuel problems. My husky holds the same amount of fuel as most real dirt bikes and many hard coredual sport bikes. My TE510's stock tank holds 9.8l and that will get me 175kms. And yes, Idid carry a spare 5l in my backpack to get me 85kms more for the routledge run last year but that was a very long trip and I did need it. I was thinking of getting a larger cap. IMS fuel tank but I don't need it.
Some dual sport riders like to carrylots offuel in the bikes gas tank. For most of the rides I do with my fellow DSBCers, the klrs come back with half of a tank and I come back with a litre or two. Anyways, I'm sure a klr would spare me some fuel on the side of the trail if needed :tup:.
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Husky should do ready to ride weights, as in full of gas, and then compare that to the other bikes ready to ride weights.....then they would really appear lighter.... only problem is they have such a pathetic tank if you plan to rideanywhere into the wilderness you have to strap gas all over the bike, or leave it in there and walk home.....LMFAO
Oh ya, my klr weighs more, but it should packing the fuel to actually go on a real trip into the woods.
Husky's new ad slogan should be " We built a bike that will beat the competition into the woods ! But wear good walking shoes for the return trip "
I did3 rides with DSBC last year; DZ, RR, LS, and a few other trips to Van Isl. and other long rides and had no fuel problems. My husky holds the same amount of fuel as most real dirt bikes and many hard coredual sport bikes. My TE510's stock tank holds 9.8l and that will get me 175kms. And yes, Idid carry a spare 5l in my backpack to get me 85kms more for the routledge run last year but that was a very long trip and I did need it. I was thinking of getting a larger cap. IMS fuel tank but I don't need it.
Some dual sport riders like to carrylots offuel in the bikes gas tank. For most of the rides I do with my fellow DSBCers, the klrs come back with half of a tank and I come back with a litre or two. Anyways, I'm sure a klr would spare me some fuel on the side of the trail if needed :tup:.
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Lets dispell so'more BS while we're at it.
I just went out and weighed the DRZ:
298lbs with bash plate, hand and rad gaurds, rear rack, 6-ply tires front and back (filled with air, not helium), mirror, buddy pegs, rim locks, balanced wheels, etc. Oh yeah, and about 4 litres of gas, a battery (including acid), full compliment of fork oil, engine oil, engine coolant. Ready to ride.
Add 4 litres to the 610 and and you have an almost 20 lb advantage for the DRZ. Seems like small potatoed at ~300, but you feel every pound when the going gets rough.
I don't know what to make of the 610: on paper, it looks like a near perfect DS. But the short time I spent in the saddle of an '07 was too bloody long!
The front suspension felt completely rigid on the sharp-edged rocky terrain, and the rear shock wasn't a whole lot better. Hard to appreciate a low C of G in that situation.
OK, so maybe some set-up would have smoothed out the ride, but I would have taken a stock DRZ seat over the 610's.
As far as all those 50 horses goes, I didn't get much of a chance to put the engine through its paces, given the bike's punishing suspension. But in a word, it felt bland.
Odd that I often hear folks complaining that japanese bikes have "no personality". At least the DRZ has a nice (but controllable) hit in the mid-range.
Not that flat, electric power isn't good, its just.... flat. Probably great for racing around on ashpalt. It just doesn't win any "fun-factor" points.
Then again, maybe the engine needed set up, too. It's too bad- I really wanted to like this bike.
I'm tempted to do as Big Boar: spend the extra $500 and get a 510, maybe look into dropping the compression ratio a bit (13:1 just doesn't spell "long-term reliability" in my book). Comes with a hopefully adequate 1.7 litre oil capacity (equal to the DRZs), and ~50 lbs lighter. I bet that motor ranks pretty good on the fun'o'meter. Then start the search the after-market for a good seat, big tank, cooling fan, yeah, yeah....
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Lets dispell so'more BS while we're at it.
I just went out and weighed the DRZ:
298lbs with bash plate, hand and rad gaurds, rear rack, 6-ply tires front and back (filled with air, not helium), mirror, buddy pegs, rim locks, balanced wheels, etc. Oh yeah, and about 4 litres of gas, a battery (including acid), full compliment of fork oil, engine oil, engine coolant. Ready to ride.
Add 4 litres to the 610 and and you have an almost 20 lb advantage for the DRZ. Seems like small potatoed at ~300, but you feel every pound when the going gets rough.
I don't know what to make of the 610: on paper, it looks like a near perfect DS. But the short time I spent in the saddle of an '07 was too bloody long!
The front suspension felt completely rigid on the sharp-edged rocky terrain, and the rear shock wasn't a whole lot better. Hard to appreciate a low C of G in that situation.
OK, so maybe some set-up would have smoothed out the ride, but I would have taken a stock DRZ seat over the 610's.
As far as all those 50 horses goes, I didn't get much of a chance to put the engine through its paces, given the bike's punishing suspension. But in a word, it felt bland.
Odd that I often hear folks complaining that japanese bikes have "no personality". At least the DRZ has a nice (but controllable) hit in the mid-range.
Not that flat, electric power isn't good, its just.... flat. Probably great for racing around on ashpalt. It just doesn't win any "fun-factor" points.
Then again, maybe the engine needed set up, too. It's too bad- I really wanted to like this bike.
I'm tempted to do as Big Boar: spend the extra $500 and get a 510, maybe look into dropping the compression ratio a bit (13:1 just doesn't spell "long-term reliability" in my book). Comes with a hopefully adequate 1.7 litre oil capacity (equal to the DRZs), and ~50 lbs lighter. I bet that motor ranks pretty good on the fun'o'meter. Then start the search the after-market for a good seat, big tank, cooling fan, yeah, yeah....
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Big Boar wrote:
I guess i am just spoiled by the BEGGINER bikes 380 km range is all.
Us newbie riders that buy them piece of shit klrs are so inexperienced at riding i guess we get lost a lot more than the smart, experienced people, so we like the longer range to get us back eventually is all.
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Big Boar wrote:
ChanceIt wrote:Husky should do ready to ride weights, as in full of gas, and then compare that to the other bikes ready to ride weights.....then they would really appear lighter.... only problem is they have such a pathetic tank if you plan to rideanywhere into the wilderness you have to strap gas all over the bike, or leave it in there and walk home.....LMFAO
Oh ya, my klr weighs more, but it should packing the fuel to actually go on a real trip into the woods.
Husky's new ad slogan should be " We built a bike that will beat the competition into the woods ! But wear good walking shoes for the return trip "
I did3 rides with DSBC last year; DZ, RR, LS, and a few other trips to Van Isl. and other long rides and had no fuel problems. My husky holds the same amount of fuel as most real dirt bikes and many hard coredual sport bikes. My TE510's stock tank holds 9.8l and that will get me 175kms. And yes, Idid carry a spare 5l in my backpack to get me 85kms more for the routledge run last year but that was a very long trip and I did need it. I was thinking of getting a larger cap. IMS fuel tank but I don't need it.
Some dual sport riders like to carrylots offuel in the bikes gas tank. For most of the rides I do with my fellow DSBCers, the klrs come back with half of a tank and I come back with a litre or two. Anyways, I'm sure a klr would spare me some fuel on the side of the trail if needed :tup:.
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I guess i am just spoiled by the BEGGINER bikes 380 km range is all.
Us newbie riders that buy them piece of shit klrs are so inexperienced at riding i guess we get lost a lot more than the smart, experienced people, so we like the longer range to get us back eventually is all.
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Its amazing how everyone keeps wanting a better bike to ride and weighs 50 lbs but if you want a bike thats reliable and lasts a long time and does not cost a fortune and if you do not want to stand out in the crowd,there is only one bike,the mighty KLRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Its amazing how everyone keeps wanting a better bike to ride and weighs 50 lbs but if you want a bike thats reliable and lasts a long time and does not cost a fortune and if you do not want to stand out in the crowd,there is only one bike,the mighty KLRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR