Something different from BMW

[Buck]

Quoting from the website:

The newly unveiled S1000RR literbike from BMW is perhaps the most highly anticipated sportbike of 2009. Despite the German marquee’s somewhat stodgy reputation in the two-wheel world, BMW is jumping into a highly competitive pool of world-level roadrace competition.



As such, BMW’s RR doesn’t reinvent the ultra-sports wheel, a development process that began 4.5 years ago. The bike has nothing externally visible that is a departure from the class formula. A perimeter aluminum frame and a 1000cc inline-Four powerplant is the same recipe the Japanese OEMs employ. No funky Duolever or Telelever front ends here.
“We had a big reality check in the company,” said de Waal candidly. “Basically, BMW did things to be different, not necessarily because it works better. Now, if anything is done differently, it’s because it works better,” he said...

If BMW wants to make a dent in this competitive market, it can’t offer up a boutique-style $40,000 streetbike. Although BMW is known for being one of the pricier brands, the company is aiming to keep the MSRP of its RR to within about 10% of its Japanese rivals, now priced around $12,000. As such, when the S1000 arrives in December of 2009, we hope to see it priced at about $14,000.

Whatever the case, watching the progress of BMW over the next few years should be highly entertaining.



http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/bmw/2009-bmw-s1000rr-a-closer-look-87737.html

 

[Bearhugger]

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I do believe there is a certain shop owner who has ordered himself one. Can't wait to see it.

 

[Hooligan]

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...and now that we have all seen the RC8....I'm sorry but I can't help to think..."Monkey see, monkey do"....! :wi:

Super Enduro....then the HP2 appears. :wi:

Beginning to look like that "other nation" with not one single original thought...oh and then there is the new BMW 450, what the hell? GS sales down Her De Waal?:dr:

Bet we will see a X-Bow copy pretty soon.....!:tup:


Board seems pretty quite, cold outside and cabin fever is taking hold here....excuse me stirring again...!:mb:
:hb::hb: Time for another wobbly pop...:hb::hb:


Merry Christmas Gents...and ladies..:tup:

 

[Bearhugger]

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KTM and BMW have always been head to head in competition. Look how long it took KTM to catch up to BMW in the dual sport market. BMW did have the H2 Sport out already. They both feed off each other and we benefit.

 

[joker650]

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If BMW wants to make a dent in this competitive market, it can’t offer up a boutique-style $40,000 streetbike. Although BMW is known for being one of the pricier brands, the company is aiming to keep the MSRP of its RR to within about 10% of its Japanese rivals, now priced around $12,000. As such, when the S1000 arrives in December of 2009, we hope to see it priced at about $14,000.

Sure....just like the new 800 ?

How long did it take for the orders to be filled?

They should have said Dec 2010.

I don't know 'bout this company ......:?

Stir, stir..... And Merry Christmas.

 

[deuce]

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Bearhugger wrote:

KTM and BMW have always been head to head in competition. Look how long it took KTM to catch up to BMW in the dual sport market.

Me thinks you have that back-asswards. KTM was doing offroad and dual sport bikes years before BMW jumped on the band wagon. It's BMW trying to play catch up after their failure to capture any of the cruiser market with the ugly duckly R1200C (60 hp from a fuel injected 1200cc twin!! and even ugly by BMW standards). At least some of their new dual sport bikes are attractive to the eye and can actually perform in their intended category.

They are going to have a hard time selling these when a 2 yr old Gixxer makes the same HP (160 at the back wheel) and costs 1/3 the price and looks the same or better. Not too many uber rich sport bike riders around that I know of (actually I know 1 guy who has a deposit on one) so I don't know who they expect to buy these things. Pretty useless bike here on the Island with the speed Nazi's and ICBC waiting to put you in jail the minute you go 40 over.

Should make for some interesting races in the WSB rounds this year. Always good to have another company throw their hat into the ring.

 

[BMWNut]

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Hooligan wrote:

...and now that we have all seen the RC8....I'm sorry but I can't help to think..."Monkey see, monkey do"....! :wi:

Super Enduro....then the HP2 appears. :wi:

Beginning to look like that "other nation" with not one single original thought...oh and then there is the new BMW 450, what the hell? GS sales down Her De Waal?:dr:

Bet we will see a X-Bow copy pretty soon.....!:tup:


Board seems pretty quite, cold outside and cabin fever is taking hold here....excuse me stirring again...!:mb:
:hb::hb: Time for another wobbly pop...:hb::hb:


Merry Christmas Gents...and ladies..:tup:

1) Like he said it's been in development for ~4.5 years. I don't remember seeing a RC8 that far back.

2) I got my HP2 in 2005. When did the SE appear? Oh and did it win anything, ever? For the record the HP2 set several records at the Erzberg, and came in 1[suP]st, [/suP]2[suP]nd, [/suP]3[suP]rd, [/suP]4[suP]th, [/suP]5[suP]th, [/suP]6[suP]th,[/suP]and[suP][/suP]7[suP]th[/suP] in the Pikes Peak for over 900cc bikes....

3) Yeah to hell with the 450 class who would want to make one of them....??????!

4) X-Bow, um, yeah, I think if you check you might find BMW has been making cars for a while now.....



Happy new year everyone :dude:

Smokem if you gottem, I see Holligan has been

stir stir stir

Brian

 

[BMWNut]

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deuce wrote:

Bearhugger wrote:

KTM and BMW have always been head to head in competition. Look how long it took KTM to catch up to BMW in the dual sport market.

Me thinks you have that back-asswards. KTM was doing offroad and dual sport bikes years before BMW jumped on the band wagon. It's BMW trying to play catch up after their failure to capture any of the cruiser market with the ugly duckly R1200C (60 hp from a fuel injected 1200cc twin!! and even ugly by BMW standards). At least some of their new dual sport bikes are attractive to the eye and can actually perform in their intended category.

They are going to have a hard time selling these when a 2 yr old Gixxer makes the same HP (160 at the back wheel) and costs 1/3 the price and looks the same or better. Not too many uber rich sport bike riders around that I know of (actually I know 1 guy who has a deposit on one) so I don't know who they expect to buy these things. Pretty useless bike here on the Island with the speed Nazi's and ICBC waiting to put you in jail the minute you go 40 over.

Should make for some interesting races in the WSB rounds this year. Always good to have another company throw their hat into the ring.

1) So you're saying that KTM had an 800cc dualie over 25 years ago? I thought not.

2) Yeah 'cause that KTM cruiser is such a hit. Oh wait, they never made one...

3) That's 61 HP I'll have you know! What are you bitching about Harleys make like 49 HP.

4) The S100RR put out 190HP, weighs 190 KG, and the price is under C$17,500. So adjust your abuse accordingly.

Personally I think they wanted to use the same naming convention as the Japanese,but some how they thought a german bike with SS in the name would look bad ...

Stir stir

Brian

 

[deuce]

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BMWNut wrote:
1) So you're saying that KTM had an 800cc dualie over 25 years ago? I thought not.
2) Yeah 'cause that KTM cruiser is such a hit. Oh wait, they never made one...
3) That's 61 HP I'll have you know! What are you bitching about Harleys make like 49 HP.
4) The S100RR put out 190HP, weighs 190 KG, and the price is under C$17,500. So adjust your abuse accordingly.

Personally I think they wanted to use the same naming convention as the Japanese,but some how they thought a german bike with SS in the name would look bad ...

Stir stir

Brian
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1) He said dual sport not glorified road bikes that can do logging roads/gravel roads. KTM have been making dirt/dual sport bikes since 1958.

2) Austrians are smarter than Germans

3) Don't start picking on the poor Hog riders. You know once you throw on some loud pipes you get at least another 100HP

4) All the mags are saying it makes 190HP AT THE CRANK. What makes it onto the road is what matters. Stock R1/GXR are putting 160 HP on the road. As for price the initial rumours were $27,000 Cdn. It is still another year or two before we see one in the flesh so who knows what it will be?

With most of the Jap manufacturers pulling out of Moto GP I think BMW did the smart thing by going into WSB instead. Plus they picked 2 good riders for their effort. I think I might have to go to Salt Lake City to watch some racing.

 

[Hooligan]

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BMWNUTT, you just don't get it, do you?:tup:

:hb:

 

[BMWNut]

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deuce wrote:
4) All the mags are saying it makes 190HP AT THE CRANK. What makes it onto the road is what matters. Stock R1/GXR are putting 160 HP on the road. As for price the initial rumours were $27,000 Cdn. It is still another year or two before we see one in the flesh so who knows what it will be?

With most of the Jap manufacturers pulling out of Moto GP I think BMW did the smart thing by going into WSB instead. Plus they picked 2 good riders for their effort. I think I might have to go to Salt Lake City to watch some racing.[/quote]

Well I don't need rumours as to the price. The head of BMW Canada said 6 months ago "tell them $17,500 and they'll get some change." this was confirmed in the Dec. dealer meeting, $17,500 is the price and the bikes will be here in late 2009.

Brian

 

[BMWNut]

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deuce wrote:

BMWNut wrote:
1) So you're saying that KTM had an 800cc dualie over 25 years ago? I thought not.
2) Yeah 'cause that KTM cruiser is such a hit. Oh wait, they never made one...
3) That's 61 HP I'll have you know! What are you bitching about Harleys make like 49 HP.
4) The S100RR put out 190HP, weighs 190 KG, and the price is under C$17,500. So adjust your abuse accordingly.

Personally I think they wanted to use the same naming convention as the Japanese, but some how they thought a german bike with SS in the name would look bad ...

Stir stir

Brian

1) He said dual sport not glorified road bikes that can do logging roads/gravel roads. KTM have been making dirt/dual sport bikes since 1958.

Well that "glorified road bike" did win the Dakar in '81,'83,'84, and '85. Didn't you say KTM had been building proper dirt bikes since '58? Hmmm

BMW also won in '99, and '00 but with the 650s. Where they came 1st, 2nd, and 4th. Third place went to a BMW 900RR yes another "glorified dirt bike" on the podium.

BMW haven't run a factory team since '01 but have a total of 6 wins and KTM has only won 7 times.

Stir stir

Brian

 

[BMWNut]

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Hooligan wrote:

BMWNUTT, you just don't get it, do you?:tup:

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Aww Hooligan you're just making it too easy! 'Cause now you just sound like a Harley rider! Well I guess those American brands should stick together!

Weeeeeeeee! Duck!

Brian

 

[Hooligan]

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BMWNut wrote:

Aww Hooligan you're just making it too easy! '

Most puppies eye's open after a while.....I guess some never do!!!:tup:
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[joker650]

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I think we should have an 800cc and over ralley :hf:

Invite smaller bikes also but they don't count...they can be "Pushers"

These bikes give us so much to do besides riding....Eh

May "Peace" be with ya :tup:

 

[deuce]

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Hooligan wrote:

BMWNut wrote:

Aww Hooligan you're just making it too easy! '

Most puppies eye's open after a while.....I guess some never do!!!:tup:
:hb:

It's the Kool-Aid they make 'em drink after signing the loan agreement to pay for the BMW they just bought. The are then indoctrinated into the secret club called 'Defenders of the Mark'. Once they become a 'Defender' they are issued a special set of BMW eye blinders (carbon fibre of course) so they do not stray from the flock. Exploding final drives and non-functioning key ring antennas be damned.

Happy New Year and may your extended warranty keep your wheels turning and not stranded on the road.

:hb:

 

[BMWNut]

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Hey Hooligan why are you grousing about BMW making a 450. After all you put in your profile you ride a 450, so what the hell

This is fun!

Brian

 

[BMWNut]

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Hey Joker is that you and the Mrs? Did you get alloys for the SE?

Brian

 

[joker650]

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BMWNut wrote:

Hey Joker is that you and the Mrs? Did you get alloys for the SE?

Brian

No not us..

Wifey gets mad when the front wheel comes up :wi:



Although I did hear a "Whooo-Hooooo" ...........once :tup:

 

[BMWNut]

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joker650 wrote:

BMWNut wrote:

Hey Joker is that you and the Mrs? Did you get alloys for the SE?

Brian

No not us..

Wifey gets mad when the front wheel comes up :wi:

 

Although I did hear a "Whooo-Hooooo" ...........once :tup:

I know what you mean. I had the Mrs out on a +1 ride and I usually have to go painfully slow or she complains. I got to this one bumpy section that I just knew would be smoother 20KPH faster and I was amazed to here "Wee", "WEEE" from behind me. It wasn't until the punch in the kidney that she informed me she was saying "whoa", "WHOA"!