BMW G450X is here

greenlake

New member
I just helped Mike at Pacific uncrate the first G450X in town. What an awsome bike. Dirt Rider magazine had a great article in Sept. but the pictures didn't do it justice, this thing is "SWEET". Drop by, have a look and bring your cheque book. With an M.S.R.P. of $9400.00, a guy, (orgal),might need two.
 

tomcycle

Past President DSBC 2004 -2018
Staff member
imported post

imported post

MMMMMMM I wonder if I could take one to Baja?

I better take a look



Tom
 

greenlake

New member
imported post

imported post

Tom,

With a claimed wet weight of less than 260lbs, you'll be able to take more than one pair of underware and carry all the cervasas'

That would be to everyones advantage:mb:

Dave
 

greenlake

New member
imported post

imported post

Tom's new bike (maybe)
The All New BMW G450X
g450x1_sm.jpg

This bike shows what can happen when a company known for its engineering and design excellence (BMW) takes a fresh look at a market segment. This is not a rebadged Husqvarna but a completely new bike designed over the last 3 years by BMW on a clean sheet of paper. While BMW has had great success over the years racing its GS models in endurance events, this is its first venture into the lightweight enduro category. This bike truly represents some innovative thinking when it comes to enduro design. High-tech solutions can been seen in both the engine and chassis in keeping with the cross-country sporting tradition of BMW. This is not a modified motocrosser set up for enduro, it is a purpose built enduro bike. The engine boasts the latest fuel injection and computer-controlled three-way catalytic converter. This bike will be completely street legal and can be easily converted from a dual sport to full race and back again. The whole concept of the BMW G450X is based on keeping the mass concentrated as near as possible to the center of gravity, giving it a clear advantage over the competition both on and off road. Witness the unique under the seat fuel tank. Wet weight will be just under 260 lbs.

Design.
The G450X looks like a BMW! The dynamic "Flyline" design makes the bike recognizable as a BMW with the familiar "beak" front fender shared by all GS models. The bike looks like it could "ride to win" in competitive races. The standard color is "racing white" with blue accents typical of BMW.
g450x2_sm.jpg

Patented swing arm mount.
The most innovative feature of the BMW G450X is the coaxial mount of the swing arm and chain pinion. The swing arm pivot has been mounted through the hollow gearbox output shaft so that there is no longer any change in length of the chain on compression and rebound over the entire spring travel. The chain tension remains constant, independent of the swingarm position. Obvious benefits to this design include a reduction in "chain slap" for more effective transfer of power, less wear on the chain and sprockets, and a considerably longer swingarm (approx. 30mm longer) than conventional designs which will provide better traction and more effective absorption of suspension loads. While the swingarm must be removed in order to change the front sprocket, BMW says that an experienced mechanic can replace it in under 15 minutes and, because of the much lower wear of the entire final drive, sprocket changes will be less frequent.
g450x3_sm.jpg

Innovative frame concept.
The frame of the BMW G450X is absolutely unique in the enduro world. Built of thin walled but high-strength stainless steel precision tubes welded to forged mounting points, the entire main frame weighs less than 19 lbs. and is extremely stiff. The frame also uses the motor as a stressed member further reducing weight and increasing rigidity. The lower bow of the frame tubes runs directly from the swing arm pivot to the steering head. On the other end, the upper bow of the frame creates a direct connection between the suspension strut mount and steering head. The wheel forces are braced centrally on the frame over the suspension strut so that the light aluminum rear sub-frame only needs to bear the weight of the rider and not any structural frame loads. The 18-inch rear wheel is suspended in a square aluminum swingarm directly linked to an Ohlins rear shock with wheel travel of 12.6 inches. The front suspension features a 21-inch front wheel and 45 mm, fully adjustable, upside-down Marzocchi forks with 11.8 inches of travel. The exact geometrical data of the chassis is subject to final fine tuning activities and will be made known at a later date.
g450x4_sm.jpg

Engine.
The 449cc single-cylinder DOHC 4-stroke engine of the G450X is a completely new engine for BMW. The engine features a compression ratio of 12:1, is started by a permanent magnet electric starter (a kickstarter is unnecessary thanks to a full size battery and fuel injection), an automatic decompression function with a centrifugal force valve lifter which reduces the power demanded by the starter and a compact four-valve cylinder head that shares many technical elements with the K1200S. For example, the intake valves are operated by valves on cam followers while exhaust valves are operated by tappets. This results in a very compact design that is still capable of turning high RPM's. The crankshaft and connecting rods are fitted with roller bearings The two ring piston is weight optimized and forged.
g450x5_sm.jpg

A balance shaft reduces the vibrations typical of a single-cylinder engine. The constant mesh five-speed transmission is a wide ratio gearbox for optimum performance in enduro racing. In contrast to conventional designs, the BMW G450X clutch sits directly on the crankshaft and is configured as a wet clutch with a diaphragm spring. This design spins the clutch discs 4 times faster than conventional designs and can be made considerably more compact (25% of the normal size) without compromising power transfer.

The engine is fed with oil by a wet sump lubrication system. Two oil pumps, a pressure pump and a suction pump, use the same oil to lubricate both the gearbox and the crankshaft.
g450x6_sm.jpg

The engine is tilted forward by approximately 30 degrees which provides several advantages including a lower center of gravity, more space for the air intake allowing a generous airbox located high on the bike, and room for a single lightweight radiator and electric fan.
g450x7_sm.jpg


Despite the powerful alternator and electric starter, the high-performance engine of the BMW G450X weighs no more than those of the average competitors' bikes (less than 66 lbs.). The exact power and torque data are not yet finalized but the final design should boast 50 BHP and 35 ft lbs of torque!
 
G

Guest

Guest
imported post

imported post

The new G450X is a great bike and all, but I feel like BMW dropped the ball a bit on it. It doesn't have a keyed ignigtion, which means it's incredibly easy to steal and I've been told by the people at my local BMW dealership that extended stints on the Highway MAY void the warranty since the bike tends to shut itself down if it's held at highway speed RPMs for over a certain amount of time.

I was more than a little dissapointed when i found out these little tid bits of information.
 

BMWNut

Member
imported post

imported post

Tibarus wrote:
The new G450X is a great bike and all, but I feel like BMW dropped the ball a bit on it. It doesn't have a keyed ignigtion, which means it's incredibly easy to steal and I've been told by the people at my local BMW dealership that extended stints on the Highway MAY void the warranty since the bike tends to shut itself down if it's held at highway speed RPMs for over a certain amount of time.

I was more than a little dissapointed when i found out these little tid bits of information.
The stint would have to be full throttle over ~120KPH. The bike will light a warning bulb that means "Hey bud I'm a motocross race bike not an endurance race bike. If you don't slow down soon I'm gonna lodge a complaint in the computer system!"Thisalonewill not erase your bike's warranty, but if anything in the motor lets go and the "over-speed"flag is set then, well, it warned you.
 

sueandal

New member
imported post

imported post

No kick start :(
Maybe it's in my head but I would like this feature.
Got real lucky push starting my non kickable in past.
I venture to say not one person possible without good hill( 4-5 hundred cc)
But bike does look quite promising otherwise and hey we did manage to
push start that brand new BMW 450 ( dead electrics ) with enough people and tries ( newbie preride I think ).
BMW 1.75 thumbs up overall
 

tomcycle

Past President DSBC 2004 -2018
Staff member
imported post

imported post

sueandal wrote:
No kick start :(
Maybe it's in my head but I would like this feature.

I hear this statment over and over, I think your right it must be something hardwired into your head.

I have been riding electic start only for 6+ years and have little problems. I cover over 10000 kms per year mostly off road. Now thats not to say I have not had any problems but if I or anyone I am riding with has a dead starter, we always seem to get it going with little difficulty. I sometimes think carring a small set of jumper cables. Then I think of how many flat tire I have had to repair in relation to dead batteries.

A pump is probably more important than a kick start.

Tom
 

sparklr

New member
imported post

imported post

Very Sweet. But perhaps not ingenious. Which market were they after? If the engineers had a fresh sheet of paper, it must of been one, sheet of Toilet paper. No ignition, maybe not so much of an issue if you solely enduro as you don't get too far from the machine anyhow, well not intentionally. Still a little more peace of mind and not having to lock up all the time. 120 kph system? Is this built in asa reliabilty measure or an admission to possible unreliability. Making it street legal out of the crate offers enduro/dual sport variation, but the 2.1 Gal tank seems minimal regardless of mileage capability. Kickstarter, well a couple of measures of weight, but again some peace of mind for those that solo. And yes jumper cables do clamp onto trees, yet not very effective. Removing swingarm to replace sprocket, but why?

I'm not knocking the bike, perhaps just the engineers.
 
G

Guest

Guest
imported post

imported post

sparklr wrote:
Very Sweet. But perhaps not ingenious. Which market were they after? If the engineers had a fresh sheet of paper, it must of been one, sheet of Toilet paper. No ignition, maybe not so much of an issue if you solely enduro as you don't get too far from the machine anyhow, well not intentionally. Still a little more peace of mind and not having to lock up all the time. 120 kph system? Is this built in asa reliabilty measure or an admission to possible unreliability. Making it street legal out of the crate offers enduro/dual sport variation, but the 2.1 Gal tank seems minimal regardless of mileage capability. Kickstarter, well a couple of measures of weight, but again some peace of mind for those that solo. And yes jumper cables do clamp onto trees, yet not very effective. Removing swingarm to replace sprocket, but why?

I'm not knocking the bike, perhaps just the engineers.


I feel the G450X is a great bike, just not a very refined bike. I feel like BMW haphazzardly slapped it together just to get it to market.

By the way, what ever happened to the G650X Challenge? I tried to find one at the local BMW place and they said it had been discontinued.
 

tomcycle

Past President DSBC 2004 -2018
Staff member
imported post

imported post

sparklr wrote:
Still a little more peace of mind and not having to lock up all the time. 120 kph system? . Making it street legal out of the crate offers enduro/dual sport variation, but the 2.1 Gal tank seems minimal regardless of mileage capability. Kickstarter, well a couple of measures of weight, but again some peace of mind for those that solo. Removing swingarm to replace sprocket, but why?

I love you klr guys, the world is round not flat

The people that steal these bikes pick them (that cant be done with a KLR)

120 KPH not bad for an enduro and very impressive if you can mantain that speed with some control on knobbie tires

Just what everyone wants is 50 lbs of fuel sloshing around. this is North America gas is everywhere, even in Baja Mexico gas is ez to find

Again with the kick starter, They droped the crank off the car back in the 40s except for some english cars and those companies are gone now

Riding Solo, probably not very smart. I have seen more busted kick starters than failed electric starts and of those I have seen the riders admit to battery neglect and knew there was a problem. How many KLR actually have a kick starter?

You will have to do you homework on why the drive sproket is where it should be, on this bike (and the new Huskies).



This is the beauty of Dual Sport,

There is no right bike for everything.

So we get to go out and buy more bikes:hf:

Tom
 
G

Guest

Guest
imported post

imported post

To Tom:

I'm not complaining about the speed limit, personally I rarely take a bike over 110 since I don't wanna have to pay for speeding tickets, 120 kph IS impressive for a race bred dirt bike. But I still would have prefered a keyed iginition or at least some sort of anti theft protection other than a basic steering lock.
 

tomcycle

Past President DSBC 2004 -2018
Staff member
imported post

imported post

Tibarus wrote:
To Tom:

I'm not complaining about the speed limit, personally I rarely take a bike over 110 since I don't wanna have to pay for speeding tickets, 120 kph IS impressive for a race bred dirt bike. But I still would have prefered a keyed iginition or at least some sort of anti theft protection other than a basic steering lock.
Part of the reason I took up DS riding was the cost of speed, after 10 years I have not received one speeding ticket off road. Problem is I still have to ride on the pavement from time to time and I cant say the same for on road riding:(


If you are worried about losing a bike, dont kid yourself that a keyed ingnition is what you want or is even going to deter someone from taking your bike. I can start most DS bikes in less that 30 seconds without any damage to the ignition or wiring and I dont steal bikes so think what a real thief can do. I think keyed ignitions are way over rated, the steering lock will be a better deterent (if any). If you have any kind of a light weight motorcycle (dirt trials or DS)you had better keep it in your sights or have it locked down solid in a secured area. Just do a search for "stolen" here and you will find most of the bikes have been stolen from their homes while the owners were out or sleeping.

Tom
 
G

Guest

Guest
imported post

imported post

tomcycle wrote:
Tibarus wrote:
To Tom:

I'm not complaining about the speed limit, personally I rarely take a bike over 110 since I don't wanna have to pay for speeding tickets, 120 kph IS impressive for a race bred dirt bike. But I still would have prefered a keyed iginition or at least some sort of anti theft protection other than a basic steering lock.
Part of the reason I took up DS riding was the cost of speed, after 10 years I have not received one speeding ticket off road. Problem is I still have to ride on the pavement from time to time and I cant say the same for on road riding:(


If you are worried about losing a bike, dont kid yourself that a keyed ingnition is what you want or is even going to deter someone from taking your bike. I can start most DS bikes in less that 30 seconds without any damage to the ignition or wiring and I dont steal bikes so think what a real thief can do. I think keyed ignitions are way over rated, the steering lock will be a better deterent (if any). If you have any kind of a light weight motorcycle (dirt trials or DS)you had better keep it in your sights or have it locked down solid in a secured area. Just do a search for "stolen" here and you will find most of the bikes have been stolen from their homes while the owners were out or sleeping.

Tom

The keyed ignition may not be much more of a deterant than a wheel lock but it's a nice "Frame of mind" thing, as for chaining a bike down, I do that now, even with my old ass KZ440 which I could care less about lol.

Hey Tom, how would a new g450X fair on say a trip up and back to Kelowna?
 

W RON

Member
imported post

imported post

U know I'm thinking if I had that bike I would lift the spark plug wire so it won't start when u park it.

W RON
 

joker650

Active member
imported post

imported post

greenlake wrote:
Tom,

With a claimed wet weight of less than 260lbs, you'll be able to take more than one pair of underware and carry all the cervasas'

That would be to everyones advantage:mb:

Dave

Is it right to ride a bike that is lighter than you are? ;)jk



I think this bike would be a great 2nd bike for them tougher trail days:clap:
 
G

Guest

Guest
imported post

imported post

After reviewing numerous write ups and various threads, I've found that spending close to 10 000$ on a bike that can't even cruise as fast as my 26 year old underpowered and overweight KZ440 would be a complete waste of money.

If there was ever a bike that killed my opinion of BMW, the G450X has to be it. It's a lot of hype for a bike that doesn't really perform that well... Sad really...
 

SubMann

New member
imported post

imported post

I can't stand it anymore. Everyone has been too polite.

You come in here slamming BMW for designing a purpose built bike that isn't built for your purpose. So go buy Japanese or Austrian. Although their race bikes can't handle dual sporting for long distances either.

The 450 has over 60 hp - more, by far, than any other 450 of any flavour. It is a race bike. It wasn't slapped together, it has been raced in Europe for almost two years. As a race bike it is high maintenance and high performance.

Go buy a DRZ400S or KLR. They'll do that road miles you want and I've seen them deep in single track trails (with the right rider). Are you that rider?

Now quit your whining and go find a bike designed for your purpose. Geez.:hb:
 
G

Guest

Guest
imported post

imported post

SubMann wrote:
As a race bike it is high maintenance and high performance.

My 1982 Yamaha RD350LC is a race bike, and about as high performance as you can get under 600cc, and it's about as low maintenance as it gets.

Besides, BMWs were NEVER high maintenance bikes, they were supposed to be the bikes that would run forever with the minimal required service. Take my R65LS for example, over 40 000 miles and runs perfectly, the only thing it needs is an oil change here and there.

And if it is so high maintenance, why release it as a street legal enduro style bike? why not keep the plates and lights off of it and sell it as strictly a race bike?
 

tomcycle

Past President DSBC 2004 -2018
Staff member
imported post

imported post

Im going to have to go with submann here, we are being a little to polite. You seem to be ragging on all the bikes?

Its time for you to go get a bike and do some riding or get on that old 350 smoker, you could put some knobbies on that, lets see how reliable that would be:shoot:It has a keyed ignition and you dont have to remove the swing arm to change the sprocket. The perfect dual sport bike if I read you correctly.

Tom
 
Top