Aftermarket (Safari, Clarke, etc) plastic tanks, legal?

[offworlder]

Thats a fine offer JT - thank ya ! Here's hoping no one has to take you up on it .
(I'll abandon the expectation of logic and spew Seems silly that OEM plastic is kosher, while aftermarket plastics aren't. Although "OEM or equivalent" can certainly leave room for debate….

 

[c337b]

. Although "OEM or equivalent" can certainly leave room for debate….[/QUOTE]

Both must be CSA certified - No debate

 

[cactusreid]

. Although "OEM or equivalent" can certainly leave room for debate….[/QUOTE]

Both must be CSA certified - No debate

i'll bring up my 07 street legal 525 exc plastic tank again, just cause this is an interesting conversation. There is not a mark or a stamp of any kind on the tank! Nada, nuthin! so how does one tell if i in fact did not swap out my 07 legal tank, and put an - lets say my buddies o7 xc-w non legal tank on my street legal bike? Tap my tank with your knuckles at a roadside check, send me in for an inspection- how do you tell if i've swapped back to my "legal" tank or do i still have the 07 xc-w tank on the bike? And if i pass the inspection, does his xc-w tank now get approval ( it just did) ????

 

[c337b]

. Although "OEM or equivalent" can certainly leave room for debate….

Both must be CSA certified - No debate

i'll bring up my 07 street legal 525 exc plastic tank again, just cause this is an interesting conversation. There is not a mark or a stamp of any kind on the tank! Nada, nuthin! so how does one tell if i in fact did not swap out my 07 legal tank, and put an - lets say my buddies o7 xc-w non legal tank on my street legal bike? Tap my tank with your knuckles at a roadside check, send me in for an inspection- how do you tell if i've swapped back to my "legal" tank or do i still have the 07 xc-w tank on the bike? And if i pass the inspection, does his xc-w tank now get approval ( it just did) ????[/QUOTE]



I can't answer why there is no mark I assume it is certified as part of the bike I manufacture industrial equipment As a whole the product is CSA approved All electrical components must bare the CSA mark. The electrical cabinet on it which is CSA approved ( We manufacture this in house) is removable but does not require and individual CSA mark on it, maybe same as the tank???? They could be the exact same tank When sold by its self no approval but when part of the bike approved The only way to know would be to get a copy of the CSA certification report.

You can find a list of all CSA certified products here
http://www.csagroup.org/ca/en/services/testing-and-certification/certified-product-listing

 

[Crash969]

Kind of funny how everyone is on this CSA bandwagon. If it has been CSA inspected it has to have a stamp or marking even a sticker. As for the fuel tank I have not seen an on hyw veh with a steel tank for a long time I men manufactured standard with a steel tank. Have the officer provide the law he is trying to enforce that is his duty. Or ask for his supervisor. They can only check for operation of road required equipment. Key words required and operation. Or on off!! Required buy dot in the motorcycle act.

When end was the last CSA approved motorcycle helmet made. And no one had their lid checked?

 

[Farp]

Thats a fine offer JT - thank ya ! Here's hoping no one has to take you up on it .
(I'll abandon the expectation of logic and spew Seems silly that OEM plastic is kosher, while aftermarket plastics aren't. Although "OEM or equivalent" can certainly leave room for debate….

The test standard for gas tanks will include tests for puncture and impact resistance, abrasion resistance, leaking under pressure, fatigue failure at mounting points, chemical tests to confirm the tanks resistance to gasoline and alcohol, etc. All gas tank manufacturers who want to sell their product in Canada must, at their own cost, submit a number of tanks for testing. If they have done this and their tanks have passed the tests then they are certified as street legal - it doesn't matter what material is used to make the tank. Tanks that have not been tested are not legal no matter how well they are constructed. You should be able to get the mfg to provide you with the certification info so you can prove that your tank is legal.

All of the mfg's who sell motorcycles in Canada have to submit their bikes for testing and the tanks will be included in this testing. So, any street legal bike that has 100% OEM equipment on it is legal. Again, it doesn't matter what the tank material is. If you have replaced parts that can impact public safety then your bike is not street legal unless the mfg of those parts submitted the parts for testing and they passed. And again, you should be able to get documentation from aftermarket mfg's to prove that their product has been tested and meets the CSA standards.

John

 

[farmerger]

The only standard I know of regarding motorcycle fuel tanks is from the SAE. Note that the abstract for this standard reads "recommended practice", not required. Sorry I don't have a copy of it to share. I could not find any standards on CSA pertaining to motorcycle fuel tanks.

 

[Crash969]

What about home made choppers what standard do they follow or go under. Lol.

 

[mattfromtelevision]

What about home made choppers what standard do they follow or go under. Lol.

Wow, yea, good point. All good as long as it doesn't leak? If I skinned my plastic tank with aluminium would it not fit the criteria? What is so different between a rusted out tank that's been lined, and a plastic tank that's been skinned?

There is so much grey-area here. When this is all said and done I will contact the officer's supervisor and relay these concerns. Not that I expect any outcome, but I'm sure in this thread we've looked deeper into this than anyone at the WVPD. I just think they should be aware.