Surrey Man with Stolen Bike

tomcycle

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Caught Red Handed with Stolen Bike

The Facts

Routine check of serial number provides police with information that bike is stolen

The guy in possession of the bikeclaims he bought it from Craigslist, even has a hand written receipt, got the bike on a good deal too. The seller is from Port Coquitlam and Buyer is from Surrey. The phone number on the receipt is out of service. Police appear to be reluctant to take direct action, seems the police want the bike dropped off at the detatchment
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What to do?

Guy from Surrey has a stolen bike in his possession and riding it. No one actually saw him steal the bike. Yes there are pictures of this guy sitting on this stolen bike, and laughing, obviously enjoying someone Else's ride. When confronted he admits that the bike might be stolen, but seemingly doesn't careandcarries on riding.


The Question


Do we need more details or shouldI post the pictures and letwhat happenshappen
 
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if ignorce is bliss; then you're open to public ridicule. post away tom.
 
tomcycle

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I missed a piece of information

I went to Craigslist and the post was deleted by author
 
Phoenix

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The known info is factual and should be available, I live near to an individual suspected of bad things and warnings have been in the paper so people can assess risk and take precautionary measures. No convictions but a suspected risk to the community. Not interested in arguing about the judicial system, would like those unseemly characters out there to realise we are keeping an eye out for each other and the network is already in place.

Cheers, Alex.
 
SubMann

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I think we all understand the dilemma Tom. This is not easy.

Another piece of information is that the bike was seen the morning of the theft in the back of a truck (and trailer?) that matched the description of the "rider's" truck.

It would be wise of a thief to at least post a bogus Craigslist add to cover his tracks. If the phone number doesn't work, how did the buyer get in touch with the seller? I'm sure the police could ask Telus? If he sent an email he would have a record. And if that is true he should be working WITH the police to get his money back.

The police are probably too busy to pursue this theft to that level, which is really unfortunate.

SubMann
 
Strongleftleg

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Throw the guy in jail!!! :mad3:

(just joking)



Can the police contact the person from whom the bike was stolen from? If they can and the person wants the bike back and hasn't recieved insurance compensation already, then the bike should be returned. The guy who bought it "hot" gets burned, but thats just how it works, unfortunately.

The exact scenario happened to a good friend of mine regarding an expensive guitar and he was the one burned. In his case the police made him surrender it.

Or take it to Stave Lake and ride the piss out of it?
 
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As I recall reading, the "suspect's" story also changed several times when confronted, adding a further degree of suspicion.
I can understand the need to tread lightly when legalities are involved but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...it probably IS a duck. Granted, few of us here can actually cross the T's and dot the I's to the satisfaction of the courts, but that doesn't change the EXTREME LIKELIHOOD that the "suspect" was the actual thief. Besides, if the "justice" system isn't willing to prosecute such an obvious case, just how badly do you think they would want to pursue a "libel" case, especially when you consider what an upstanding citizen the complainant is?
That story in the Province today...the two drug dealers that got 14 months...dealing in MILLIONS of dollars of contraband. What sort of sentence would a scumbag bike-thief get if that is the yardstick?
We have politicians that drink and drive, we have cops that drink and drive...the whole system is rotten and going to hell.
Holding a dirtbag's feet to the fire for a few days was cathartic...and apparently needed by many in this forum; myself included. I just hate to see the tide turn, we had the bugger by the throat...and we let him skate! For each ONE that is caught, there are dozens more that aren't!

 As I see it, HE got the last laugh and Al is still out one KTM.
 
Phoenix

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There ya go, the focus is lost. Keep your eye on the donut not on the hole. Direct our energy where it will do something constructive or provide information to improve the situation, bitchin' about a system accomplishes squat.

Cheers, Alex.
 
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Phoenix wrote:
There ya go, the focus is lost. Keep your eye on the donut not on the hole. Direct our energy where it will do something constructive or provide information to improve the situation, bitchin' about a system accomplishes squat.

Cheers, Alex.
Click to expand...
Like riding bikes and planning adventures....another topic to unwatch...otg
 
sparklr

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I thought this horse was already dead. Reincarnation?

Let me premise my following example by reminding you that for many crime does pay. It isn't necessarily a haphazard whim of the moment decision. Most criminals have a lengthy record, which I equate to years of experience with the current system at hand. The technology that we enjoy today has also opened many doors and avenues that is used by Organized Crime. Case in point, reportedly there was maybe 3 suspects involved in the theft. This is called organized as opposed to one of your acquaintances teenager pulling a quickie. Several people pulling up to a house with truck and trailer to thieve a ride is organized. They already had a plan and managed to execute it perfectly. They knew how to deal with person(s) that would have confronted them and had questions.

How To Steal A Bike 101

First, case the place out if the info you received from your source(s) doesn't cover all the necessary bases. Familiarize yourself with the daily movements of the house and neighbours. Steal the bike in the AM, most people aren't cognizant of much but their own daily lives at this time of day.

Before the heist, establish your Craigslist account anywhere but your own residence. Internet Cafe of your choice is best here.

Purchase anywhere, a disposable cellphone to broadcast on your Craigslist ad.

Once the heist has been successfully accomplished call your contact to run the ad and sell it to the first sucker out there.
Provide a hand written receipt and ditch the phone. Partytime!:bliss:

Just scored several thousand dollars of cold hard currency, tax free to boot.

As a genuine buyer, for one I would have asked for a BC drivers license as well as other pieces of identification to protect myself. That's me just being assinine.
But really, who couldn't scribble a meaningless receipt.:gaah:But in reality all the legalities were covered and the thieves remain protected. Walked away happy, you make the call.
 
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i still cant beleive the police were ever called

pretty common knowledge a criminal has more rights then the victim

so make the criminal the victim

especially in a discreet place such as burma road
 
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Oh how emotions can skew ones view!! Years back I bought a CR 250 from an ad in the buy & sell (this was before craigslist). Being the trusting soul I was, didn't think to see if it was hot, just accepted the hand written receipt from someone I only had a cell phone number for. 2 years later, I sold it to someone else who also didn't check to see if it was stolen. It was only sheer dumb luck that I didn't find myself in this situation, even though I would never knowingly buy a stolen bike. For all I know, I could be guilty of being in posession of a "hot" bike. Sometimes, the bad guys get away with it, and innocent people get screwed. This situation Tom is referring to may not be as cut and dry as we would like it to be. It sucks, but so does reality. I am not in any way defending scumbag theives, but sometimes, people with good intentions can appear guilty by cicumstance. I know our system is far from perfect, but it's the one we have until we change it.

Try to look at each situation logically and without prejudice. My first reaction after reading Tom's post was "String him up!!", until I realized, that could have been me caught riding my "paid for" dirt bike.

BTW Tom, are you referring to a green bike?:shoot:

Jon
 
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Strong left, I was still typing when you posted, I see we had the same thought!!
 
tomcycle

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You guys are too smart:)You are right, I am using me as an example

here a am laughing after riding that bike. I might have been smiling here, but was sick about the situation that I found myself with the bike.



I trust people, sometimes I don't know why? But I keep on trusting. I don't know what I would have done if something like what happened here with Als bike, happened to me. If I had my picture,lies made about mycharacter, and some of my friends added to the mix, all on a open forum, what do you think I would do.I can promise you their would be big trouble for someone. It could have cost me my business, and I would make sure someone would be paying for that.

I was humbled by this experience, in fact it still bothers me that I had that bike in my possession. I though I did my due diligence. I am a supporter of registration of dirt bikes and atvs.

With the facts provided (and thats all we had at the time), I am sure that if posted on some site, too many people would end up with the wrong conclusion.

Lets make sure we have all the details and let the legal system do its job. Its not the best system, but its all we have. As I said before, I dont have the answers. I do know what happend on Als thread ended up being wrong.I am remindedabout what parents taught me when I was a kid, I think it had something to do with throwing stones.
 
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one thing i did for my own piece of mind with the 3 dualsport bikes i have purchased is make the seller go with me to sign the bike over at autoplan.
that way the agent gets to check the sellers id. i realize you couldn't do that tom but for those with papers.....
al
 
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