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What is the BC rules to convert a Dirt Bike into Dual Sport?
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spc
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Check out this post. It you have more questions let me know.
http://www.dualsportbc.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=5496&forum_id=32
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Check out this post. It you have more questions let me know.
http://www.dualsportbc.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=5496&forum_id=32
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There would be quite a line up of people down at ICBCturning in plates. Owners of converted dirt bikes, owners of custom cars, choppers, modified 4x4 trucks and SUV's that require inspection.
They can't even regulate commercials truck inspections and keep unsafe commercial vehicles off of our streets and hiways. I am not sure they have the political will to take on all the vehicles that have and can pass inspections.
I hope I am not proven wrong as I have a plated enduro but I think it would be about as politically damning as the gun registry if they tried.
my 2 cents worth.
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There would be quite a line up of people down at ICBCturning in plates. Owners of converted dirt bikes, owners of custom cars, choppers, modified 4x4 trucks and SUV's that require inspection.
They can't even regulate commercials truck inspections and keep unsafe commercial vehicles off of our streets and hiways. I am not sure they have the political will to take on all the vehicles that have and can pass inspections.
I hope I am not proven wrong as I have a plated enduro but I think it would be about as politically damning as the gun registry if they tried.
my 2 cents worth.
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spc wrote:
Not trying to argue spc, but myself i would see them in court.
If it passed, it passed....if they want to prove otherwise, I would make them prove it to a guy or gal wearing a robe, that out rules them.
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spc wrote:
Not trying to argue spc, but myself i would see them in court.
If it passed, it passed....if they want to prove otherwise, I would make them prove it to a guy or gal wearing a robe, that out rules them.
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A probem is that BC may model it's legislation on Quebec where no RUM bikes can be plated, period. I think that also there are new rules requiring registration, insurance and drivers license for off-road too.
http://www.saaq.gouv.qc.ca/en/faq/motorcycle.php
I couldn't find out what they do for previously plated bikes, but I heard they couldn't be sold as licensed bikes and they would be ruled non-compliant with any change in registration.
.....isn't democracy great?
Sparkle
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A probem is that BC may model it's legislation on Quebec where no RUM bikes can be plated, period. I think that also there are new rules requiring registration, insurance and drivers license for off-road too.
http://www.saaq.gouv.qc.ca/en/faq/motorcycle.php
I couldn't find out what they do for previously plated bikes, but I heard they couldn't be sold as licensed bikes and they would be ruled non-compliant with any change in registration.
.....isn't democracy great?
Sparkle
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here is a happy story, but from 2007
http://www.dualsportbc.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=3842&forum_id=32&jump_to=33294
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here is a happy story, but from 2007
http://www.dualsportbc.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=3842&forum_id=32&jump_to=33294
Sparkle
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Lucky wrote:
The manufacturers label is usually on the front of the steering head on the main frame. Later bikes with plastic headlight fairings usually put them on the side of the steering head in front of the tank. It's usually a white label with the date of manufacture, displacement and sometimes tire inflation data, along with the VIN and a description saying either M/C or Motorcycle, or RUM or Restricted Use Motorcycle.
Here's my ol XT500 for example,
Sparkle
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Lucky wrote:
Hi lucky:
The manufacturers label is usually on the front of the steering head on the main frame. Later bikes with plastic headlight fairings usually put them on the side of the steering head in front of the tank. It's usually a white label with the date of manufacture, displacement and sometimes tire inflation data, along with the VIN and a description saying either M/C or Motorcycle, or RUM or Restricted Use Motorcycle.
Here's my ol XT500 for example,
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ChanceIt wrote:
The problem with saying that it passed an inspection is that dirt bikes (RUM, etc) should not have been inspected in the first place. The (British Columbia) inspection process you are referring to is to inspect vehicles that have been certified by the manufacturer as meeting the standards laid out by the federal government. The BC inspection is to ensure that vehicles which may have mechanical deficiencies are brought up to BC standards. It is not and never has been to certify a vehicle to be approved for on highway use. The BC inspection is a very minor inspection compared to the destructive testing done by the federal government and is not meant to replace it.
For many years inspection facilities have been informed that they cannot inspect off-road vehicles to make them legal on the road but they keep inspecting these vehicles anyway. When a mechanic puts a DIRT BIKE through an inspection that is meant for a MOTORCYCLE it is the mechanic and the inspection facility that is at fault. The government has been trying to stop this from happening for many years, that is why the Inspection Manual has been rewritten.
If someone wants to take a dirt bike that they already have and try to get it licenced then they are not investing a lot of money. However, if someone buys a new dirt bike, has it inspected/licenced and has the licence taken away in a year or two, then they are out a lot of money. Don’t blame the government for the problem; they are trying to prevent it. Blame the inspection facilities that are inspecting a vehicle that should not be inspected.
Bye the way, my only interest here is to provide information on the subject. It is my opinion that once you know the rules, you pay your money and take your chances.
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ChanceIt wrote:
spc wrote:
Not trying to argue spc, but myself i would see them in court.
If it passed, it passed....if they want to prove otherwise, I would make them prove it to a guy or gal wearing a robe, that out rules them.
The problem with saying that it passed an inspection is that dirt bikes (RUM, etc) should not have been inspected in the first place. The (British Columbia) inspection process you are referring to is to inspect vehicles that have been certified by the manufacturer as meeting the standards laid out by the federal government. The BC inspection is to ensure that vehicles which may have mechanical deficiencies are brought up to BC standards. It is not and never has been to certify a vehicle to be approved for on highway use. The BC inspection is a very minor inspection compared to the destructive testing done by the federal government and is not meant to replace it.
For many years inspection facilities have been informed that they cannot inspect off-road vehicles to make them legal on the road but they keep inspecting these vehicles anyway. When a mechanic puts a DIRT BIKE through an inspection that is meant for a MOTORCYCLE it is the mechanic and the inspection facility that is at fault. The government has been trying to stop this from happening for many years, that is why the Inspection Manual has been rewritten.
If someone wants to take a dirt bike that they already have and try to get it licenced then they are not investing a lot of money. However, if someone buys a new dirt bike, has it inspected/licenced and has the licence taken away in a year or two, then they are out a lot of money. Don’t blame the government for the problem; they are trying to prevent it. Blame the inspection facilities that are inspecting a vehicle that should not be inspected.
Bye the way, my only interest here is to provide information on the subject. It is my opinion that once you know the rules, you pay your money and take your chances.
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spc wrote:
spc,
Thanks for all your work posting the info.
You are the expert, as this is what you do, and I know that.
Thanks, its appreciated very much.
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spc wrote:
ChanceIt wrote:spc wrote:
Not trying to argue spc, but myself i would see them in court.
If it passed, it passed....if they want to prove otherwise, I would make them prove it to a guy or gal wearing a robe, that out rules them.
The problem with saying that it passed an inspection is that dirt bikes (RUM, etc) should not have been inspected in the first place. The (British Columbia) inspection process you are referring to is to inspect vehicles that have been certified by the manufacturer as meeting the standards laid out by the federal government. The BC inspection is to ensure that vehicles which may have mechanical deficiencies are brought up to BC standards. It is not and never has been to certify a vehicle to be approved for on highway use. The BC inspection is a very minor inspection compared to the destructive testing done by the federal government and is not meant to replace it.
For many years inspection facilities have been informed that they cannot inspect off-road vehicles to make them legal on the road but they keep inspecting these vehicles anyway. When a mechanic puts a DIRT BIKE through an inspection that is meant for a MOTORCYCLE it is the mechanic and the inspection facility that is at fault. The government has been trying to stop this from happening for many years, that is why the Inspection Manual has been rewritten.
If someone wants to take a dirt bike that they already have and try to get it licenced then they are not investing a lot of money. However, if someone buys a new dirt bike, has it inspected/licenced and has the licence taken away in a year or two, then they are out a lot of money. Don’t blame the government for the problem; they are trying to prevent it. Blame the inspection facilities that are inspecting a vehicle that should not be inspected.
Bye the way, my only interest here is to provide information on the subject. It is my opinion that once you know the rules, you pay your money and take your chances.
spc,
Thanks for all your work posting the info.
You are the expert, as this is what you do, and I know that.
Thanks, its appreciated very much.
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Thats funny:dr:...I have 2 dirt bikes that I have made road legal in the past year and have not had any problems.To my knowledge NO one has had any problems making "dirt"bikes legal in B.C. To me its no different thanmaking dune buggies legal or a home made trailer legal....as long as they are done right and inspected.
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Thats funny:dr:...I have 2 dirt bikes that I have made road legal in the past year and have not had any problems.To my knowledge NO one has had any problems making "dirt"bikes legal in B.C. To me its no different thanmaking dune buggies legal or a home made trailer legal....as long as they are done right and inspected.
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Hi s.p.c.,
Thanks for all the information. It does scare me when you say the government has been trying for years to stop inspection places and mechanics from passing r.u.m. vehicles. How hard could that be ? Wouldn't they just check the records and look for WR450's or Husky 610 etc. Or look on the I.C.B.C. computers and trace the bikes back to the inspection stations. They have been trying for years? If the bikes are not legal they should put a stop to it now. This entire matter seems fishy.
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Hi s.p.c.,
Thanks for all the information. It does scare me when you say the government has been trying for years to stop inspection places and mechanics from passing r.u.m. vehicles. How hard could that be ? Wouldn't they just check the records and look for WR450's or Husky 610 etc. Or look on the I.C.B.C. computers and trace the bikes back to the inspection stations. They have been trying for years? If the bikes are not legal they should put a stop to it now. This entire matter seems fishy.
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So are there any dual sports for the 2008 and 2009 years that are legal without question? I guess I am asking if any are designated on the VIN plate as "Motorcycle" and not as "off road" or "RUM".
I am looking to upgrade early next year and don't want to buy a bike and then find out that the province is going to pull my registration.
Kerry
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So are there any dual sports for the 2008 and 2009 years that are legal without question? I guess I am asking if any are designated on the VIN plate as "Motorcycle" and not as "off road" or "RUM".
I am looking to upgrade early next year and don't want to buy a bike and then find out that the province is going to pull my registration.
Kerry
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kerry- your choices are limited severely,compared to the selection of bikes out there. drz400s compared to the drz400e for example. same bike except the road legal out of the box bike has wimpy suspension,scrawny exhaust,steel tank.way less power out of the same engine. this is why most people dualsport a dirt bike! not because we are "hardened" criminals! my ford diesel and almost every vechile i work on (collision repair business) has switched to plastic fuel tanks because they are safer than steel. you bet the rules need to be redone-but like governmentmost of the time-they are going the wrong way!
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kerry- your choices are limited severely,compared to the selection of bikes out there. drz400s compared to the drz400e for example. same bike except the road legal out of the box bike has wimpy suspension,scrawny exhaust,steel tank.way less power out of the same engine. this is why most people dualsport a dirt bike! not because we are "hardened" criminals! my ford diesel and almost every vechile i work on (collision repair business) has switched to plastic fuel tanks because they are safer than steel. you bet the rules need to be redone-but like governmentmost of the time-they are going the wrong way!