Restricted Use Motorcycles (RUM)

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redpillar

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I think you would get further trying to point the finger at ubilt bikes and making a big out of it. Those guys dump untold amounts of money into those pieces of crap. If they were being targeted the same way then there would be that many more angry voices to be heard.
 
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cactusreid

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the big part of this ubilt bike thing is getting a bc legal serial # that will stand up to inspection,or at least firmly put my "ubilt" motorcycle in the ubilt category. when does the serial # get issued-when i walk into the motor vehicle office with a frame that has no serial # on it under my arm or after i have assembled my "ubilt motorcycle" out of pieces that i have procured at garage sales or ebay or where-ever? i want the check list of what the inspectors require to sign me off as meeting their requirements,and thus giving me the right to licence and insure my ubilt in this province without the fear of some one sending me in for an "inspection that i can not pass" as someone mentioned earlier in this thread! if i have to start this with a piece of chromemoly tube and build from there-so be it,i'll show up with my piece of pipe,get my serial # and go home and build myself a motorcycle! the home built chopper riders don't seem to be worried about the man coming along and pulling the rug out from under their high dollar ubilt bikes! i want the same rules and privilege that they have, i spent an afternoon a while back trying to find the list-guess what,5 or 6 government offices later,no one had a friggn' clue what i was talking about!
 
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cactusreid

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redpillar wrote: those pieces of crap. If they were being targeted the same way then there would be that many more angry voices to be heard


If ya can't beat them-join them,and get them fighting to defend those of us that have ubilt bikes as well! hey i might even cut off 2/3 of my exhaust system and cruise around downtown with my new "BROS".Anyone have a beanie layin' around that i can borrow?
 
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I have posted this a couple of times before without any interest

These are the guys who know the rules

http://www.sva.bc.ca/


“ SVABC does not take a stance on vehicle types!
The SVA remains an umbrella for all categories of our hobby,
be they original, modified, car, truck or motorcycle.
Our goals are all the same, the preservation of our hobby. ”
 
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I think the only reason we now see a decent attempt at an off road orientated dual sport such as now bieng offered by KTM and BMW is because of the opposite of supporting the manufacturers who have offered dual sport bikes. I think the reason they are building these more agressive models is because of the overwhelming number of RUM bikes bieng modified to be street legal.

So it's about time the CONSUMERS actualy got something they have been asking for and wanting for years. What has been offered for dual sport bikes for a long time are shitty, wimpy excuses for off road bikes built for grampas who want to divert off onto fire roads once and a while. The KLR, and XL bikes come to mind, and the DRZ although some credit is due to Suzuki for at least providing the most reasonable example despite the short comings.

What most people are after here with RUM bikes is nothing more than the ability to take the best or their favorite off road bike to and from the riding areas without use of a trailer or a truck or the ability to support the purchase of a bike because they can use it for their hobby and drive it to work in the summer. I bet a lot of people would not be able to afford a bike strictly for the offroad, nor justify it to their wives.
 
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I agree with what you say maddtrapper. And hopefully what we hear about the whole Husky line being made street legal stock is true. That should make the Japanese follow suit if they want part of the market.
 
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I read this entire thread and still don't understand

- can you plate a xr650r with a headlight harness from Vancouver Supermoto?

- if a bike like an xr650r is already registered with a plate, can it be renewed for next year?

- does ICBC really have anyway of identifying an xr650r as being an offroad vehicle by the VIN?
 
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maDDtraPPer wrote:
I think the only reason we now see a decent attempt at an off road orientated dual sport such as now bieng offered by KTM and BMW is because of the opposite of supporting the manufacturers who have offered dual sport bikes. I think the reason they are building these more agressive models is because of the overwhelming number of RUM bikes bieng modified to be street legal.

So it's about time the CONSUMERS actualy got something they have been asking for and wanting for years. What has been offered for dual sport bikes for a long time are s***ty, wimpy excuses for off road bikes built for grampas who want to divert off onto fire roads once and a while. The KLR, and XL bikes come to mind, and the DRZ although some credit is due to Suzuki for at least providing the most reasonable example despite the short comings.

What most people are after here with RUM bikes is nothing more than the ability to take the best or their favorite off road bike to and from the riding areas without use of a trailer or a truck or the ability to support the purchase of a bike because they can use it for their hobby and drive it to work in the summer. I bet a lot of people would not be able to afford a bike strictly for the offroad, nor justify it to their wives.
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That last bit is the kicker, the wife. Thats why I would like to get a street registered frame like an XL and build up my own dualsport.
 
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I stopped in today and spoke to my Insurance Agent. I asked about the whole RUM Bike thing and checking for the MC sticker on bikes and all that.

Well, she knew nothing about that, but she did say that there will be a phasing in of plates for off road Bikes and ATVs. They have received stuff about it and are going to be getting more. She said it will be happening over the next couple of years. I asked her again about not being able to plate RUM bikes for the street and she again said she had heard nothing about that.
 
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^^^ I went to two autoplan places within walking distance of my house & neither had a clue what I was talking about. I even had the ICBC "memo" with me & both stores were completely unaware of any policy changes -- "this is all news to us" is what I was told.

Maybe we shouldn't have even talked about it -- you know, like outa sight outa mind?

Go figure.
 
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you guy's need to go back and re-read the thread. It's not the Autoplan agent that the bulletin was addresed to but the inspection agencies. But don't be supprised one day when when they enter your vin and a little message pops up on their screen to call icbc.
 
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Other guys have posted that their Insurance Agents have been told to go outside and check the Decals on Bikes, that was what I was responding to.

Things seem to be inconsistent. Big surprise right.
 
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North wrote:
Other guys have posted that their Insurance Agents have been told to go outside and check the Decals on Bikes, that was what I was responding to.

Things seem to be inconsistent. Big surprise right.
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All I needed was renewal letter, current registration and money. :dr:

Hopeit works again next year. :cross:

otg
 
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soooo..... all of us with dirt bikes with no registration that have had who knows how many owners in its life, just how are they handled? Will we have to track down the original owners from new? This sounds like something that should be done but I hope they are sensible about it.
 
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flyin phil

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I understand the problem is with applying for new inspection approvals, and potentially having and already registered bike re-inspected should the need arise, but for what little it's worth, I just re-insured my xrr without anyone so much as batting an eye. :hb:

If we lose the ability to have bikes inspected and plated, and they pull all the old RUMs out of the system, I sure hope there's an influx of dirt worthy factory dual sports, but that's probably a little over-optimistic.
 
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